How’d you know?
That is pretty dang accurate!!! gg
I was thinkin while playing Diablo 4, the wow gear is BORING, it sucks… So I am going to grind for days weeks to what, buy an upgrade going from 20 agility to 30.
Diablo 4 you have wild gear that you can make entire builds around. Cool abilities, weird abilities, legendaries that flip the world upside down. And the pvp is anything but balanced, fights are over in about 10 seconds win or lose lol. Its action packed fun, no 30 min of pillar humping or keybind mashing your 30 hot keys.
WoW is just not fun anymore, fix ur game Blizz or Boycott, let wow ROT lol.
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I think so as well for a few reasons, but the big one is that the masses have already tasted the forbidden fruit - Solo Shuffle being the fruit in this analogy. Taking it away isn’t going to push them back into 3s, they’re just going to stop playing (or go back to yolos in the case of those just looking for vault cap). We’ve already seen a few with wounded egos pack up and leave after the MMR nerfs.
And the other reason is Blizzard’s tendency to just kinda make new stuff and leave it. Very few things - barring class abilities and stuff of that nature - have been nixed entirely from PvP. Strand was retired because it wasn’t PvP half the time, it was PvV, which is more suited to epics, but it didn’t have the scale of an epic. 5v5 was shut down because of win trading since it was an otherwise dead bracket.
Solo Shuffle isn’t PvV, and it isn’t full of wintraders (unlike what the conspiracy fox will say), it serves a purpose. That purpose is different to different people: Easy vault cap, easy rating (to inflate one’s ego), a mode you can just click a button and play (eventually), sometimes all of the above.
Even if it’s “not what we wanted,” I do think the game is better with it than without. It’s a casual ranked mode (for dps anyway), and 3s still exists for serious play. And 3s will always have players, glad gamers or addicts or otherwise, even if the fresh meat, dads, and general scrubs (hi!) aren’t propping up the ladder.
There’s a point where we need to stop grasping for prestige and start working for longevity, participation, and new blood - because we’re hemorrhaging it.
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Not going to happen without a total revamp of the system. From gearing to rotations to addons to healers to horrible LFG… Theres so many problems WoW has at its foundations and given that the current WoW developers are barely junior level, the chances WoW gets the loves it needs it slim to none.
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Fully agree, but burning Solo Shuffle to the ground just because it’s less prestigious than 3s, not what we wanted, and took all the scrubs away from the big boy ladder isn’t the move. Especially not at this point. In my eyes, at least.
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Well thats going to continue to be the sentiment until the developers realize they need to stop developing the game for people who play it like its a job.
Look at anyone whos complaining about solo shuffle taking away from 3s or saying it killed pvp 100% guarenteed they have played the game since WoD off/on or continously. 10 year+ veterans.
Theres not a single person who started in shadowlands and is complaining about solo shuffle its all peanut brained boomers with no real life achievements.
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Taking shuffle away would anger the bad players who just want to w key and get rewards but removing shuffle and adding in dynamic que would fix all the problems and make the majority want to keep playing.
It really isn’t though. By any metric that takes in the actual health of the gameplay and community shuffles strangle holding the game in the name of ease of access.
The problem with shuffle is it gives every 3s does outside of glad and rank 1 for free. Even with the mmr nerfs it’s still stupid easy for someone to just get everything they’d want.
This creates a huge issue where the casual playerbase that helped add a population to 2/3s now sees no point in queing which creates deflation causing the middle of the pack people to not wanna que since they’re queing now several hundred rating below their usual and not getting properly rewarded because things aren’t % based anymore.
This isn’t what’s happening though. If anything blizzards bad attempts to drive up participation have done the exact opposite in every way that matters.
This isn’t the case at all. Tons of rank 1s and multi glads are people who que it up once a week with way less played time than many of the casual playerbase. They’re just better at the game.
Nope.
I know several.
You know several of the people you’re complaining about have achieved tons in real life right? Saying stuff like this just makes you look like a jealous neckbeard who’s trying to find some kind of justification for why he’s bad.
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Link the armory of one single person who fits this description please.
You are literally the type of loser im referring too.
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My friends are back to queueing 3s and I couldn’t be happier. Shuffle hurts my soul
and thats fine. no one is forcing you to play shuffle. have fun.
Ha! You believe in the moon…
Nah. Weirdos like you would just harass message anyone I link.
Same with you.
eorc you are one strange person.
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How is it a conspiracy? Glad mounts and selling ratings has been around for a long time, everyone knows about it and that its going on. Certain servers trade chat is nothing but advertisements for it. Open your pvp group finder, 24 hours a day someone is soliciting boosting.
Glad mount runs for around a grand, they sell hundreds every season for over ten years now… Thats quite a bit of cash, thats connected to the whole market of game currency farming shops in 3rd world countries. You can even watch gold farming documentaries on youtube.
conspiracy lol… HA, the only conspiracy is Blizzards inability to stop them.
You got that right, everyone ignores the elephant in the room, but either way the players are leaving. Asmongol in a recent video watching Ruki made a good point, the barrier to entry into wow is too big, its massive. The only reason they want to keep all of the Bloat in this game is for the hardcore players egos, because they poured ten years of their life in this game.
I…don’t think many people have a very firm grasp of what’s actually occurring, but they think they do.
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You got that right… Alotta people have been playing this game for decades, everyone thinks they know and have the solution. But what we do know is this expansion is pretty good Raiding wise, and still its dieing. And regardless of allll of our input, the Company corporate board could not give a flying fart what the players think, they know better.
WHAT??? dont you all have phones?
YOU think you do, but you dont lol.
i’m glad you’re aware of this.
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Did you just add and message me on discord?
me?