Congrats guys you killed pvp
look at the 3v3 ladder, the lowest participation of any modern era WoW
solo shuffle wait times of 1 hour ( queue your Netflix)
2v2 d e a d
RBG dusted
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Eh? 3s is a little flat but shuffle seems to be getting back in decent shape. 3v3 will likely be super juiced mid-late season, even if it probably shouldn’t take that long.
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I get insta queue pops in 2s. 
it’s over
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what rating?
hope thats true if not this will be worse than season 2 SL
I feel the same 20 years plus was a good run I’d say
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That’d probably be for the best. 
Better to have top of the ladder be 3700 and people actually queuing rather than AFKing until the literal last two weeks.
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I think they just need to add more RSS to liven it up.
2v2
5v5
RBGs
Even a try hard bracket for 1v2 for the streamers who like a challenge/carrying dead weight
Game fixed!
when i queued 2s this past weekend i was getting insta pops. the problem though is LFG . that place is dead took a while to get a partner to queue with. 3s i have no idea havent touched that bracket in 2 seasons . RSS felt ok but yeah 45-1 hour queue times at 1900mmr feels really really bad especially after a bad lobby
Blizzard killed PvP. How exactly did players do it? We dont balance classes. We dont control MMR. We dont control other peoples participation or lack there of.
What happened to WPvP? Its is legit dead. Did the players do that too?
Delusional.
RBGs don’t matter. They are like 2s in terms of “real” coordinated PvP. There are way more PvP classes to choose from so naturally more people play dps than healer. Also, playing healer is more punishing so it’s not as fun for a lot of people. Hence the bottleneck of SS. However SS is a much more popular bracket because you get to just test your individual skill (to a certain extent) without having to go through the drudgery of LFG. Most people today don’t want to spend a ton of time building a group only to have it fall apart after the first loss. It’s just simply more fun to play a mode where you know the group will be broken up after the match is over, regardless of the individual result.
Ruki made a youtube vid recently talking about why player participation is soo low when Dragonflight is a great expansion.
I think they did great on PvE side, but as for pvp… I believe the explosion of paid boosting ran the players off. Being power farmed by Glads at 1100cr is not fun, and if the player base can not get rewards they leave.
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Is shuffle back? I’d love to try queue’ing it again. I don’t have the time to sit in 30 min+ queues due to family obligations.
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Shuffle was extremely popular and brought tons of new players into pvp, for about 3 months. Players were getting ratings and transmogs, having a blast playing pvp.
Then the 3rd party websites and all that comes with illegal RMT boosting moved into Solo Shuffle. For a while I thought it was punishment for the player base leaving 3v3s, because selling Gladiator mounts was a lucrative cash cow for over a decade for them.
As shuffle progressed into nothing but boosting accounts, the players have little chance of getting rewards, so they stop playing. And all the Get Guds / L2 play comments dont work anymore when the brackets are dead.
By any chance do you believe the world is flat? Was the moon landing fake? Is the war in Ukraine staged?
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The fact that accounts on the forums try running damage control, by saying it does not exist when its actually rampant, proves my points.
3rd party websites have employees policing the forums to silence any players who talk about this stuff. And many players enjoy their seasonal boost, so they defend it as well.
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Yes, and that’s basically the same thing any conspiracy nut says when someone who graduated the 4th grade tells them that no, the world is in fact not flat, and that there is no reason for the government (let alone multiple governments that rarely get along) to cover it up if it was.
At least “the moon landing is fake” has propaganda merits.
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See thats all they have, they divert the conversation, then they slander, and their last step is to mass report players who talk about this stuff. I think I am on my 5th mandatory forums timeout punishment now.
In fact I am surprised I made it this far lol. You know pvp is dead when they dont have enough multi Glads to mass report players anymore lol.
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I mean, there’s more pressing issues than boosting in Solo Shuffle: Class balance (although that’s a given), healer imbalance, Sub Rogues repeating the sins of SL S4 Outlaw, the existence of Demo Lock, healer pity boxes, the tragic death of water elemental, and MMR.
I’ve seen disheartened leaving, frustrated throwing (which you can report someone for), and tragic choking, but never boosting. You’d have to be pretty blatantly win trading to boost in Solo Shuffle. Though I won’t deny it was happening in the oceanic regions in the dead of night during S1.
Either you’re jumping at shadows or just looking for entertainment. I will assume the latter.
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If a new arena mode pulled away a lot of players from old 3s, maybe they didn’t enjoy old 3s that much.
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