Hey, so I’ve been off Warcraft since the Legion Pre-release. I got back into it recently, and noticed that PvP is severely hurting overall. It’s all I really care about doing, and it’s on the verge of making me give up on WoW all thogether…
But my question really is about the Match making values. Why is it that my rank is around 1,100, and as a team, our MM value is around 12-1300… but I’m getting put against 15-1600+ teams … almost every time?
Isn’t the point of the MM value to put you against generally equal teams, to rank up? Not go from 0 to fighting challenger teams?
I’m trying to gear up, but I’m getting out-geared every match (as if PvP gearing wasn’t difficult enough).
The state of the game is very similar to previous expansions, where you actually need to farm gear to be relevant in arena.
Sadly since honor gear is no longer around to fill that role, you would be doing yourself a big disservice if you don’t run some Mythic dungeons at the very minimum to get some gear. It’s not what PvP only players want to hear but it’s what you have to do.
I understand that’s become the case, which is honestly why I’m considering quitting. No honor gear (honor doesn’t actually mean anything any more), and, as a PvPer, I’m being forced to play a part of the game that I don’t actually want to play. I’m really okay with gear grinding in PvP, but now that PvE gear reigns supreme at lower ranks, I’m losing because I’m not both a PvPer and a PvEr. Which is killing the game for me overall. I do okay when I face teams on my own Ranked level, but there again, I’m being out-geared regularly by higher ranking teams.
The MMR system is flawed like much of wow PvP. The idea is to sometimes put you against people above your MMR, if you beat them then your MMR rises. If you lose to them you don’t lose any points. If they lose they take a huge hit in points and MMR
I have heard from asking various teams, that the MM value takes into account your previous rank from the last season, and that other characters’ ranks also play a part.
Which, if that’s true… I… that just … well, it doesn’t make sense. If my better-geared Hunter is rank 1600, why is my lower geared DH fighting in the same rank?
I’m hoping that’s not the case, but that’s why I figured I would ask the community as a whole.
But, honestly, I’ve been needing 3 arena wins for my 410 weapon… for 2 days straight now. (I won once today…)
I might just take a break for a while and check back in the next big patch and see if they fix PvP.
I believe your toons have separate MMR, but someone can correct me on that.
Don’t forget you can also get conquest from other places, like your daily skirmish win, daily brawl win, daily bgs win, war mode assault WQs, or even looting a war mode supply crate.
the beginning of every season is always really messy
mmr kind of rolls over from last season, if you were like over 2400 your mmrs just about auto over 2k from the get go
BUT every player who’s had previous mmr gets 10 “grace games”
which will basically put you against lowest possible mmr and slowly ramps up over the course of the 10 games so that you’re put into a correct bracket
this means if i was 2500 last season, my mmr now is probably about 2k, but my first 10 games will be agains 1100mmr players, 1300mmr players, 1500mmr players, 1700 mmr players ect
this leads a bunch of new arena players and new alts to see their mmr at 1100 but the team they qd into displays as 2100mmr
this is a thing for the first month-6 weeks of the new season
(since all the previous high mmr players have to get their grace games out of the way on all their alts and probably dont q right away)
it’ll become alot less scrambled and messy in about 2 months
Ya, once you hit 1800 or so everyone is 410 with ridiculous pve items. Even without stupid shields and trinkets they have like 25% more hp. CBA arena right now. I’ll play classic when it comes out and wait on the next xpac or catch-up at the end of this one.