Despite the best cheesy one liner ever for paladins (and if you’re not using it, im super dissapointed at you - ‘the light will forge you a new one!’ should be your default war cry always) that cinematic also happens to give us:
- A pretty good life lesson
- A pretty good insight into how the Light functions in wow…how its not necessary a force for good but actually more interested in perpetuating its existance and attaining dominance over the other dominions…and you can see that in shadowlands with a naaru trying to influence revendreth.
I always wondered what would happen to a person’s faculties upon endeavoring to drink furniture polish.
I think I know now.
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Everything is grey and boring.
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Reminds me of Babylon 5, how the first few seasons we thing The Light (Vorlons) ore the good guys, and the Shadows are the bad guys, but the truth is much more deeply nuanced.
“The Gift” cutscene has now unseated “The Wrathgate” as my favorite so far in WoW. When he goes full Shatner in Star Trek 5 with “I am my scars” … damn. Just damn.
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All it really shows is that there were atheists writing for WoW at the time.
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Illidan kills the leader of the Army of Light that’s been fighting the Legion for thousands of years. No one reacts to it. In fact you get this:
“LOL Let’s put her shards into a forge! XD”
How so? Its not like atheists invented being opposed to shiny things.
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She was just planning to forge him a clone of Tyrande.
Silly demon elf. Rejecting the light like that.
Illidian was powered by fel which gets its power by consuming life energy. It is why DH and Warlocks really should be KoS in the game and why it makes zero sense for them to be accepted. It also makes purging him of fel a good act regardless of his personal wishes. Like putting a drunk in lock up or a drug addict in forced treatment.
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dude i disagree entirely…those powers in wow are not alike real life…they are forces that move the universe, and choose their champions…illidan is a champion of fel, as are warlocks…fel struggles against death, life, void, arcane…specially arcane. what you are suggesting would cause an unbalance that could be catastrophic. we’ve seen many situations in which either life or light triumphed over other powers and it was really bad…light (tyrel’s crusade is a good example) and life (those plant people consuming the planet in draenor) should not be allowed to win…its always about maintaining the power balance. Sure, it goes against what we consider as morals back in our real world, but that’s that.
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Let me quote myself from another forum:
Like Chesterton said, " It would be much truer to say that a man will certainly fail, because he believes in himself. Complete self-confidence is not merely a sin; complete self-confidence is a weakness."
Take x’era like you mentioned. illidan is only powerful because he was given his ability by her, he was born lightforged which made him competent at everything. The problem is that he went insane due to arrogance and brought upon himself all manner of misfortune because of it. In his insanity, illidan came up with the meme of “scars” as an excuse to be evil, that he could not be returned to normal and therefore he was “justified” in being a petulant mass murderer.
Then x’era was to heal illidan, proving that his “scars” were just a flimsy excuse. The rest is just pablum of a weak-willed man turned monster sneering at virtue because virtue makes his vice uncomfortable.
you also bring up the void, which is just as easily answered. The void is insanity par excellence, and their ethos is “they see all possibilities and believe all are true.” Meaning they cannot tell right from wrong any more, and so therefore they believe any lie they hear or even any lie they tell another.
The scene with illidan proves that he is little more than a stand-in for sargeras with no differences between the two. The scene with the void proves they are insane and as evil. That you unfortunately identify with these two things and miss the point entirely is on you alone.
You know, maybe I was wrong about you all these years.
I eat people?
Also I am just saying that a lot of things in the game don’t make sense, like orcs having a warlock enclave in their main city. Also that void, death, and fel powers would classically be considered “evil” and most races would have a strong inclination to purge such users with fire. Especially considering the problems that the users of these powers have caused.
Iirc, the warlocks aren’t exactly…welcome in the city and have to hide in the spooky cave area where ragefire chasm is. It seems to be the case in most cities where warlocks have to hide in really awful areas. Been awhile since i’ve brushed up on that though so I could be wrongo.
area was nice before they got there. it isn’t the cave that “spooky”
Ok, first you are overthinking the behavior of a retconned character into some sort of psychological real life pattern. Second, it wasnt untill he embraced fel that he was able to fight toe to toe against the legion, the expansion made that abundantly clear, and third, he wasnt hiding behind his meme scars, as you put it, he was illustrating that the choices that led him up to that point made him who he is, and therefore are important to him.
turalyon was “blessed” by x’era and fought the legion to a standstill for millenia, never gaining the advantage. It took illidan to defeat them, so i guess fel wasnt just his excuse to be evil after all.
No, sergeras just needed a successor, and one who used to be a great powerhouse of the light was needed.
sergeras did what he always did, manipulated the weak and unsure of themselves. illidan got less powerful when he turned into a bad teenage fanfiction.