I have given it some thought. Enlightenment is good for in-between pulls in dungeons as it helps push your out of combat regen a little. Symbol of hope gives almost nothing to anyone but when considered for raid wide use, It can help all healers in a raid sustain a little longer.
But neither does much of anything for Holy in PVP. As symbol of hope is always an instant interrupt target and enlightenment? what is 10% of near 0? Basically absolute zero.
Why not put symbol of hope in the talent slot for enlightenment and then create a new talent underneath it that instantly restores 20% of the priest missing manna when they cast symbol of hope?
This would help bring Holy priest manna generation in line with the likes of Monks manna tea (though it would be noticeably weaker even still) while still forcing you to channel to gain the raid wide effects.
Something needs to change for Holy. We do not have the 1 minute “bender” shadow fiend like disc and shadowfiend in general is a clunky and horrible design.
We do not have the new watered down version of rupture that disc has to claw back manna from PWS. We have basically nothing and the kit is manna intensive.
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They just need to unnerf Symbol for non-raid if anything.
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If they’re dead set on not un-nerfing the defensive CD component because of ~0.5% of players being godly with it, they could at least buff the mana return element and give it a small DR/or DPS component while channeling and a bit thereafter to reflect the opportunity cost of both the talent and the time spent planted and channeling.
Spending a point on this talent, planting yourself for 4 seconds, and using up a 3 minute CD supposedly on par with Divine Hymn for such meager returns is a bit crazy for what it offers, especially for non-raid content. They had to buff it to make it used in the first place in SL - and that was before we had to invest talent points in it, and then they immediately nerfed it in DF when it got some traction…
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Yea it is just madness to be honest. it is so bad. 3 min CD? Even at 1 min CD it is pretty bad.
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Mana regen might not be great, but 30 seconds off CDs for everyone affected is still really nice at least.
I agree, something needs to be done regarding Holy’s mana problem in pvp.
Either buff Shadowfiend or Symbol of Hope to give way more mana to the priest, or buff enlightenment by another 5–10% in pvp.
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