I don’t believe having a ‘dislike’ system will reduce false flagging, however perhaps Blizzard will read this thread and think differently.
…soooo, things can only go up from here, then?
The problem was you start to get a mob mentality and… mob rules. Topics got brigraded and reasonable discussions were shut down.
I was one of the initial people that wanted the functionality. Mostly hoping that the forums could effectively police themselves. Instead, good comments and topics just got buried as you noted.
People would start to pile on downvotes if a comment got an early negative count. You could post the SAME comment in another similar thread and it could get positive results.
I agree the flagging system is bad, and the whole hidden score… But the the ability to downvote had more negative repercussions overall.
It wouldn’t have, had the system not automatically “hidden” posts that received a lot of “dislikes.”
Again, I thought it would be good to have, but topics tended to get over run by people. Honestly, during that time, the forums on the whole was far less democratic. People would use that as justification they were right. There is already a lot of divide in what matters most to everyone in this game.
IF, and big IF, there was more apparent moderation here, I would be more inclined to have it back. If we knew there was someone helping drive the good topics and keep discussions going, sure. Since we don’t have that now, I don’t think I would want it back.
honestly they should remove flagging and not bring back dislikes either instead they should just add an ignore option that when used blanks out anything the ignored poster says but only applies to the person that ignored them
that way it cant influence social policy by letting others see them as ignored on their screen unless they too chose to do so because whenever a thread gets downvoted its often treated with a hive mind mentality pretty much the same way as a vote kick
the others don’t care what the actual reasoning behind the VK is all they see is a pop up thats in their way being a nuisance and dislikes/downvotes are the same ideology people couldn’t care why they use VK/DV and they don’t care about finding out either they simply go with the masses and choose it as well
keep the report option for the truly hardcore trolls and all but by allowing an ignore option would cut down on the nonsense on the forums since it is only seen by the person using it and thus it doesn’t affect the outcome or opinions of other since on their screen the person ranting isn’t ignored unless THEY do it as well
a blind ignore system would be a more unbiased system that doesn’t encourage or influence others into bullying anyone with an opinion that others might not agree with it would be a more honest and fair method of “getting rid” of trolls and jerks while maintaining the integrity of fairness among the forum goers
Ignore system just reinforce echo chambers. You can ignore someone by simply not responding to them with the power of your own will.
I miss the “ignore” feature. I would like to be able to ignore the players I formerly had on “ignore.”
I still think if there’s a “like” button, there should be a “dislike” button.
not if you do the way I mentioned say if I ignored you then the only person would see your posts as ignored would be me unless someone else ignored you as well then BOTH of us would see it as such but to the rest of forums your post is still there plain as day
only the person/s that ignore you would no longer read or see what your typing
English is not first language. Apologies, comrade. Will use proper english term at later time.
Which you can do without a system by not responding to those people, moreover it doesn’t mean that that person will always make posts that you dislike or want to ignore. It could also be seen as a way to not flag people when they should. I think forums are made for discussions for everyone and that a system that encourage you to ignore people in that context is bad.
Fact is, the mechanics of the old forum were better. Discord blows and not in a good way.
I think mods were just more active, I don’t think the old forums features were necessarily better. Disagreements are also fine as long as you respect the rules. It’s also fine to try to not get into them if you don’t like arguing.
It would be better to return the dislike button than it would be to continue to have malcontents abuse the report button.
an ignore feature would end the abuse after all it only hides the people you disagree with from YOUR screen and thus trolls cant actually use it to downvote legit threads just to see them get buried and hidden for the heck of it
if only the person using the ignore has others hidden from their screen alone it cant be used to mass hide topics from everyone unless the majority also ignores that certain poster
how can you make the forums any more fair than that? don’t like a guys opinion put them on ignore and all of their toons are permanently hidden from your screen and if other people feel the same way they can ignore as well
It always worked well for me in the old forums.
If dislikes were brought back every single post stating that a higher effort should yield a higher reward will be buried once again.
Every post about wanting the devs to focus more on meaningful game design changes instead of adding another useless mount to the cash shop will be buried once again.
Not sure if we need downvotes back.
Yeah I would rather get dislikes rather than get flagged over and over, been flagged a number of times today alone, and I wasn’t even trolling, just stating some reasonable objections to the echo chambers.
The only “good” thing about the flagging stuff is seeing “post restored” after a couple hours.
I think that the intent was that you would use your words to articulate your dislike.
Agreement doesn’t really need more than a heart because “I agree” is less than ten characters. But dissent needs some context and investment.
I think returning to some form of mindless noping is certainly not a better solution than actually sharing your differing opinion.
This is supposed to be a forum.
That is surely a joke, removing someone from your view doesn’t mean anything fair. It could be if you’re trying to have a private conversation, but this is a public forum and some would say “we live in a society”^^.