Regular Heroics are fun, Heroic Plus is too long and feels like Mythic Plus

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Regular Heroics feel so much more like Wrath expansion dungeon content. Heroic Plus simply feels like you’re playing a Mythic Plus dungeon minus the timer.

I vote we remove the stupid affixes in Heroic Plus, nerf the enemy hp back down to only a little bit more than normal, and make the dungeons quick and fun like heroics are.

They just feel like a chore on the dead server I’m on, groups are hard to form, Daily World Tours for Heroic + are non existent.

Yes they are good for catch up gear but by the time it’s efficient to do them you don’t even need the gear anymore.

And remove one shot mechanics from heroic dungeons, this is supposed to be fun content not current retail raid content.

Lessen the hp a bit and make the dungeons actually fun, this game is about having fun isnt it?

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I’m concerned if you think wotlk basic heroics are too hard. I guess ICC dungeons will be very challenging for some people^^

They are actually making the affixes also give you more damage buffs next patch which should help toward that.

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I just have one question does Blizzard pay you to defend them all the time, all you do is troll every post i make of me legit not having fun on the game

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I’m one of the biggest Blizzard critic, I don’t remember you if you thought it was personnal.

Heroics at the start of Wotlk are one of the easiest content done in wow.

I agree that they aren’t much fun and nobody asked for H+, but they are also not making them much worse next patch if anything they are making them much better. So there’s small victories.

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Lol, you must be new here. All he does is complain…err offer feedback.

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i feel so bad for this guys guild

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potayto potahto

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Halls of Reflection hungers!

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I can’t wait for people to keep wiping in Pit of Saron. It can be pretty rough if you don’t know what you’re doing xd Even the trash is something.

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It’s okay. He’s (supposedly) unsubbing because of the WoW token.

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why dont you transfer to a bigger server then

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I suspect the trash skip route many private server players are accustomed to running (it was standard on the realms I played) will cause many wipes, cuz you generally have to gun for the right path between patrolling mobs right as people zone into the instance.

Halls of Reflection PUGs will be the real test of peoples’ patience, though.

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I would transfer if it was free.

Sub expires in two days I have already unsubbed. I have only been doing H+, and I did a regular heroic just for fun and realized that it’s so much more fun when its not the mythic + format (minus the timer)

Everyone is missing the point anyways. This was supposed to be WoTLK Classic. Not WotLK with Retail features. WoW Token has been added, terrible for the game. H+ Basically splits the 80 players in half. Higher geared will not help lower geared players because they’re probably mainly focused on H+, and lowered geared characters have trouble filling a group on my server because most people are geared and don’t want to run regular heroics.

And the answer should not be “oh just pay to transfer to a megaserver”. The answer should be fixing your game so that everyone has fun, not only the whales and the players on megaservers, and not repeating your same mistakes. Keep Wrath, well, Wrath, don’t add Mythic / Mythic + version of dungeons, just keep them as Heroics.

They talked about not adding RDF because it would cause players to get exhausted from the content alot quicker then without. I think H+ is giving the opposite effect. People do the only daily H+ because of the 5 badges, but they’re long and boring and feel like a massive chore, and then don’t want to run any other dungeons afterwards.

So now Wrath Classic has Heroic + (Basically Mythic +), WoW Tokens, Bots, Cheating in Arena. They really need to change it the name to Dragon Wrath. What’s next, store mounts? Paid 80 boosts?

But hey it’s okay, I guess it’s okay that Blizzard is basically ignoring everyone except streamers and giving us Classic Hardcore, which I could care less about, I just want Wrath to thrive and not die out, but they’ve assured that with all these terrible changes and the wow token.

The changes I do like: Item level tuning in Ulduar.

I actually just joined the guild I’m in and they’ve been inviting me back to raid Ulduar every week… I haven’t been one shot in the raids yet but I have been in Heroic + because of RNG and overtuning. They just need to tone it down a little bit is all. It can still be harder than Reg Heroic obviously but I think the increase is a bit much especially since Heroic ++ is coming out soon. Do you seriously think that AN/OK is fun on Heroic+?

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BREAK YOURSELF AGAINST MY BODY!

Wait, wrong xpac… but that’s going to be a really fun H+ if we see it.

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Nah, this is WoW not Diablo.

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Just remove the stupid bag from H+ so H+ is truly optional content.

The bag makes it so you have to do H+ over heroic to get the extra badges.

Optional content would’ve been fine, but with the bribe they threw in there that gives you more badges than full raid clears it’s not really that optional.

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I dunno, I like H+. I prefer it greatly over retail M+, though I don’t get the “skip run” stuff and I don’t pug.

Pugs jaded me in Wrath retail. Never again will tank or heal a pug solo.

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Most people are just in them for the daily and since the affixes are awful people skip as much as they can.

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the damage is out of control in h+, and no one is doing heroics. everyone wants a carry through them and now i see undergeared people in heirlooms joining every one. they are a nightmare to heal and are not fun at all. this is not wrath classic it’s wrath retail.

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They should just delete them from the game.

They weren’t part of original Wrath and they shouldn’t be in Wrath classic.

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