I never thought I’d see the day where someone complained that there wasn’t enough humor/references in the game. I personally think it’s too much and ruins a lot of the content that could otherwise be interesting (Uldum), but that’s just my take. I’m sure there’s still plenty 
Says you. I just borrowed a crystal ball and am about to see the future of WoW.
…let’s see what there is to see…
…oh, ye gods! In 14.2.5, Blizzard has implemented a system that detects if your eyes are looking at a character’s chest or butt! If the system goes off, Blizzard’s psychic-robot-gestapo force instantly teleports to your house and shoots your dog before getting you fired from your job and banning you from the game! This could’ve all been avoided if we had just left “Bros Before Ho Ho Ho’s” alone!
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Good subject for some spirited and thoughtful discussion!
We’re flawed human beings, playing a game designed by flawed human beings. And the circle goes around again.
Some poor judgement was exercised by the “corporation”, true enough. I’d rather have the game’s player age rating go up, rather than sanitize the content.
Bleach it, whitewash it, and give it the full-on George Orwell “1984” treatment? Let’s not memory hole the “offensive” content. There are better ways, indeed.
I could go on and on, but I’m not about to hijack a perfectly good thread.
/Raises glass in a toast.
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Keep the poop quests, those are iconic.
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If you bothered to actually read and comprehend you’d understand my issue is with the endless changes to the history of the game itself. Not any one particular thing, but the wholesale purging and rewriting of many things in this game according to the emotional swings of the neurotic puritans, exactly as I said in my post. Which you clearly did not read.
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blizzard is making the changes, no one forced them to make these changes - does that mean they are neurotic puritans too?
If things never changed they wouldn’t be history. They would be the norm.
Fair question, some people working there now probably are. But for the most part the people making decisions have been there for quite a while and they were perfectly okay with the way things were at the time. This is a relatively new trend that seems to be escalating based on external pressures from a relatively small group of very vocal and obsessive people.
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They may have changed “greenskin” to avoid litigation from Games Workshop, whose work prominently features the term “greenskin”.
They actually are trying to rewrite history in schools now and such to not depict things like slavery in history class. It’s quite stupid that the new generations are getting worse and worse and being raised as “snowflakes” – and I hate using that term, I do, but when people can’t even take a joke without getting offended it’s definitely warranted.
I think so as well but the US, at least, seems to think you can. It’s just stupidity.
How so? You’re changing a game for the worse into a more watered down thing. It’s not like they’re replacing it with something just as funny or amusing, they’re removing the humor entirely. If you can’t take a joke that’s fine, but others can.
Also amuses me that the “woke” crowd, themselves, can’t take any kind of humorous joke, either and then get offended and things like this go away. It was a stupid joke, some found it funny some did not. It does not need to go away. If you get PTSD because of it, you need a different game.
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‘Bros before Ho, Ho, Hos’ should have been changed because, while I did find it funny, the reality is referring to women in general as hos is demeaning to women and I don’t think humour should be used as an excuse to acceptably demeaning women.
But I still don’t understand why calling Sylvanus a 'itch was a problem because it was clearly directed towards her, not womenkind in general and the 'My sack is… ’ achievement name does not demean anyone.
But I also have no idea the environment those ideas came out of, so maybe it is for the best, maybe making ideas like that unacceptable will create a better, safer work environment at Blizzard and I can certainly get behind that.
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Interesting idea, could be possible, but I don’t think it’s something that would really be legally an issue given the nature of how these things work, the context, etc. And I think the chance that it’s just a coincidence is probably extremely remote given that it’s been in the game for many many years and is only now being altered in the middle of all of these other changes, all of which are along the same theme.
I think blizzard is just doing it themselves. I don’t think anyone outside that company organized a campaign to change things.
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I was talking about the Trollbane dialogue in that quote (which the part that was edited out implied). You seem to be talking about the achievement jokes.
I wasn’t offended by the jokes, and I was also not offended when they changed them.
So?
I don’t mean to insinuate that there’s any organized campaign out there, there may be or may not be. You would be surprised what people organize on private facebook pages, discord servers, etc. in terms of mass complaint campaigns etc. But rather, I would say it’s a vocal minority of very obsessive and very neurotic people that are making complaints about these things on the forums, on the feedback system, etc. and because they express such negative opinions about it and the current spineless accommodation culture, Blizzard decides to listen. And what else do they have to lose? They save a customer by doing it and “who’s really going to care?”. It’s win-win right?
Well I am expressing my opinion now that I care when they start mass rewriting the game’s history and don’t get me wrong, they are perfectly fine to do what they want with their own game, but it’s not without cost. And that cost is someone else’s sub.
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Yeah, and a lot of those were also “perfectly okay” with cubicle crawls and male chauvinistic behavior. Doesn’t mean they were right to be okay with it.
And for the record, I have no strong feelings either way on changing dialogue and quest/achievement names. I just thought that was a particularly doltish statement to make.
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TLDR, ps you can still tell all the Bros before H** jokes you want in your discord or whatever the modern location is for locker room humor.
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Literally nobody is talking about that, what’s the point of this post beyond trolling? The complaint here is the general trend of erasing and rewriting many things in the history of the game, it has nothing to do with a single achievement name.
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Huh? EMfH became WtS in BFA, and the bro jokes seem connected to the lawsuit.
Why not? Remember, WarCraft was originally going to be the video game version of Warhammer before Blizzard and GW stopped working together. Also, GW recently sued fan content over trademark infringement.
Seems more likely to me than Act-Blizz is scared of some psychos on Twitter.
So are you denying that they have been doing this over the last few years and have recently accelerated it? Asking “where does it end” is actually a very valid question.
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