Regarding the primordial stones in M+

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I’ve noticed that subcreation lists nearly every spec running the same combo of stones:

Meta DPS Stone Combo

  • desirious blood
  • storm infused
  • prophetic twighlight

I made a ring with all 3 of these at max upgrades - and in ~10 keys I have found that:

  • blood stone ~10% of total healing
  • combined DPS stones ~15% total damage

Tanking with the following combo:

Absorb Shield Combo

  • Indomitable Earth (taking damage change to shield)
  • Shining Obsidian (absorbs shield procs aoe damage)
  • Cold Frost (absorb shield every 20 seconds)

This results in:

  • shining obsidian ~ 12% total overall damage
  • shield ~17%-20% overall healing

What I’m suggesting is that the “meta” stones are possibly worse than the shielding combo for tanks/dps. The total damage is marginally better for blood stone combo, but the healing isn’t nearly as strong.

Absorbs are “damage prevention”, meaning they work in all scenarios (magic, physical, when you’re full health, etc). Overall you’re taking way less damage and getting nearly the same DPS from the stone combo.

Anyone else been running the shield combo stones?

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I have been using the shield combo on my prot paladin. It feels like I barely lose dps by not using the blood/prophet combo but I end up being way tankier. So since I feel way tankier, I swap a couple defense talents to offense and I had a drastic increase in my overall dps without losing any tankiness because of the shields.

The shield combo is definitely underrated / underestimated. Big fan of using the shield combo on my prot paladin.

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Yep, another benefit. People are sleeping on this combo.

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I’ve heard Brm runs the shields because of how stagger works with absorbs. That said, I’ve tried a bunch of combos on dps and nothing really impressed me.

I run wild spirit, storm infused and pestilent on my disc and it’s absolutely massive at 20% of my dps and 7% of my healing even though it’s 56% over healing. My disc does around 23-26k dps on overall for context.

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The problem I’m going to see going into next season is that healers are going to get dps nerfed.

These rings are a +20% dps increase on-top of the ragefeather contributing a lot of damage and both are being lost so that’s roughly a 8-10k dps loss which might just be evened out with the increase in iLvl.

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The shield combo does 6-7% dmg for me, very insignificant for a loss of 1200 2ndary stat.