Just wanted to chime in here about some of the hoopla surrounding the (speculated) new way to obtain T3. not sour grapes
As someone who owns the set, I am a bit disappointed to see it come back in a way in a way that seems trivial. Even with the BMAH, it still took me over a year of camping the items hoping they spawn, as well as the massive amount of gold it took to obtain. I felt like this was a huge challenge and something to overcome, which honestly motivated me greatly!
I have minimal issues with the reintroduction of items as long as they maintain their level of difficulty to obtain. For example, the mage tower was awesome! I would like to see the Challenge Mode stuff from MoP and WoD come back in similar ways, since youâre bringing back T3.
Additionally, I do have an issue with something Ion said in an interview when asked about specifically the Corrupted Ashbringer and Swift Spectral Tiger. He said that those items are off the table to be reintroduced because it would âdiminish playerâs hardworkâ.
If this is the mindset youâre using and protecting certain items, it seems hypocritical and a tad disrespectful to owners of any other item you reintroduce because the same logic could apply. Corrupted Ashbringer was removed at the same time as T3, so why not reintroduce it? Spectral Tigers⌠hard workâŚ? Iâd say 80% of the ones you see today were received by taking advantage of an exploit back in WoD (duping).
Itâs old. Itâs crafted. Why do you care so much? It wasnât a challenge mode. A new coloration of it exists and buying it off the BMAH is trivial.
There was nothing difficult about spending gold on the BMAH or going back to roflstomp an old raid for transmog.
Could you elaborate on this? Iâm not sure how you think this is as trivial as walking up to a vendor and purchasing it. It isnât.
Servers reset early AM - checking the time in which the auction should end and planning your night around it is not trivial by any means. Often would disrupt my plans for the evening because I had to prepare for a bidding war for the piece I wanted. The RNG factor made it unpredictable as to when youâll see that piece again and some pieces are worth a lot more, so you needed to be ready to have a few buddies coodinate with you for their mailbox toys for when you got outbid. The anxiety and pressure of getting these pieces was pretty high, as the competition was fierce. It took just about a year to obtain the full set, as well as the man-hours of farming the gold itself (never bought tokens) in between.
Youâre being disingenuous by saying it was trivial and attempting to minimize it, which is confusing.
Then Iâd say you got scammed. Because I bought T3 pieces for thousands not millions.
Anyone can buy tokens and get gold.
And people will be grinding for mats or spending boatloads of gold to buy the mats.
The only reason T3 ended up on the BMAH is because there was nowhere else to put it at the time and they wanted people to have a way to get it.
Now, thereâs a craftable way to get the transmog.
Itâs a Vanilla set. It wasnât a challenge mode.
No, Iâm being logical.
Sorry you spent so much gold on transmog that wasnât supposed to be removed from the game, but itâs way past time for something like this to be implemented for an old tier set.
Again: itâs not a challenge mode. Letâs stop trying to gate people from basic transmog.
Love the disagreement on the part of the op, so because someone has a different opinion then your own itâs time to scan their character to see what they have accomplished and then insult them on it?
Iâll just flag this crap as inappropriate and move on. Since apparently having a back and forth conversation with someone is too much to ask for a child to do without throwing around insults.
If you believe buying a token for gold is work, then sure thing. I feel farming for mats is work, as well. Which is what people will be doing. Or selling them for high prices. So youâre still spending gold.
Going to stop you right there. Youâre talking about transmog here, not dungeons and raids. My apologies that my physical disabilities donât allow me to do higher content as I used to, but itâs entirely irrelevant to your post.
But hey, âconstructive,â right? That includes personal attacks against others when they disagree with you? Nice job keeping it civil, but none of what you brought up has anything to do with farming for transmog.
Poor attempt and you donât deserve any further conversation.
Edit to add: if OP wants to play the âyou donât do anythingâ game, their collections total is 6%, while mine is 53%. They arenât even a collector, but theyâre up in here telling everyone else how it should be, trying to dismiss others based on raid achievements, over a transmog collection. Smooth.
How is pointing out what you have done/havenât done a personal attack? If I saw you put in hard work on the things youâve done in-game, your words would have more weight in this argument. You tried to minimize the efforts I put in so when I give it back to you, you shudder. Câmon now.
If T3 and BMAH are so trivial, then there shouldnât be a reason to reintroduce it in this manner.
Again, these comments just show me how much people donât know about the BMAH. Even on dead servers, highly sought after items go for millions because of this exact logic. Everyone moves a character to a dead server to ball out on the BMAH which is counterproductive for that exact reason. The ZG Tiger was posted on Antonidas just a few days ago (low pop server) and went for gold cap.
Iâve gotten pieces as low as 10k and as high as 500k, it all depends on who wants to bid on an item on a certain day,
even days with the same itemultiple days in a row can go for vastly different prices, we had dreadnaught shoulders 2 days In a row, day 1 I got it for 82k day 2 saw it go for 750k
It takes a lot of time commitment to even find the items and then camp the BMAH for it, because the BMAH doesnât have strict timers when auctions end. Just very vague timers that are extended for an unknown amount of time when someone bids on the item. Thatâs difficult and then thereâs the fact that a lot of people donât just cash in on WoW tokens, but farm all their gold to collect their cosmetics.
With the AH being region wide there wonât be a lot of grind or âboatloads of goldâ to be spent on the items. I can see the mats being extremely expensive the first few days, but after that⌠not so much. You can bet that botters will spam this old content when thereâs something to gain again and a lot of small farmers will see the opportunity and farm it. Now most of this stuff just goes to the vendor, therefore thereâs a relatively small quantity of that in the AH.
Well, the old stuff was already implemented back - through BMAH, so itâs still possible to get it but just with a lot of dedication, so it stays more rare.
I think itâs the best if Blizzard would just consider removing it completely. Why would anyone go to the BMAH anymore? For what reason? Rare TCG items? Are handed out for free via Twitch and Prime, piece by piece. T3? Coming soon for professions. All thereâs left in the end are rare raid mounts and those donât pop up very frequently.
Iâve done it before for T3. I know how it works. Itâs still not an excuse to stop people from earning the ability to learn patterns and craft it.
Considering how new mats skyrocketed in 10.1 and this is something new, theyâll definitely go up.
And people will still farm.
It shouldnât be rare. Itâs just old tier.
I believe this is a first step to possibly removing the BMAH. Itâs a failed concept. There are better ways to do gold sinks.
But T3 is a small part of the BMAH. Iâd rather they found a better way to implement all of those items without bad RNG and gambling. Tier should have never ended up there. Nor should any of the other items on there.