Sure, which are outlined in the interview as follows:
Player interest
Player need
Feels right for TBC even if inaccurate to TBC
Response to player feedback
Response to modern player behavior vs original TBC player behavior
Etc
These are all very wide and open justifications. Need is not limiting on any of them.
See above.
You are.
This is in direct contradiction to the interview. This isn’t an opinion, this isn’t subject to debate. So long as you choose to personally interpret #somechanges as having a “necessity” element, your interpretation will be wrong compared to Blizzard’s actual stated meaning. They weren’t even ambiguous about it.
I’m not interested in fortune telling or casting bones or reading detritus at the bottom of a teacup.
U cant dispute their arguments because they are just a bunch if bs to begin with. They just want to force other ppl to play how they want to. You waste your time trying to despute the nonsense they say. They wont acknowledge you are correct.
Yeah I play one, pretty well I might add too. Any other dumb questions?
That’s sort of what you’re doing, actually.
By saying the game needs it you’re forcing the game I like that never had dual spec to potentially have it and thus lessen my experience.
Where as you can’t make the argument we are “forcing” you to do anything, because the game never had dual spec, re-launched without dual spec, and you started playing it knowing it wouldn’t have it.
No, I have definitive evidence you are wrong based on the direct words of TBCC’s Devs.
There is no need element to #somechanges.
Patrick Dawson: We always take a look at what makes sense, but some of those things didn’t exist in Burning Crusade . We don’t have any plans for anything other than what we’ve announced here for the launch of Burning Crusade . If it comes to pass that there’s a lot of people that really need that faction change, or they are really interested in a race change, we can reevaluate that choice. But as of today, we’re not planning to do that.
Not “and”, “or”
If people are really interested in a paid service like race change, Blizzard can reevaluate that choice.
This isn’t ambiguous. Need isn’t necessary.
“Unless they name it you can’t be sure if your requested change is a change they’d consider!!!” - you, a silly person
“Here I am going to restate my interpretation of what the devs said for the 1000th time and try to pass it off as fact!”
Uh, I mean, the quotation is literally true. Unless they directly name a feature and comment on it, you don’t know if they plan on adding it. That’s not silly. That’s just basic facts and logic, bro.
If it comes to pass that there’s a lot of people that really need that faction change, or they are really interested in a race change, we can reevaluate that choice.
If you can’t even acknowledge the quote, which directly contradicts you, then I’m not sure what else to tell you other than go back to school to learn how to read better… or stop being a blatant liar.
Why would I need to know their plans? This has nothing to do with anything. Why are you so bad at this that you have to make up problems that don’t matter?
Seriously? When i think i have seen the lamest argument possible, along comes another one. When a game adds something that is optionable it is your choice to use it or not use it. Play it as it was or use the option. The choice is an option. By the definition of option, it is impossible to force you to play one way or the other. Get it? Ooopppptiiiioonallllll. When you dont have the iptuin then you are forced to only one way. So NO. You are wrong. They are not the same. Im not going to waste any more than that on you. Lmao.
The problem with this is that the majority of features that modern players want are bloody awful, many of them even harm their own playing experience, but they are just too short-sighted to see it. It’s all there on display in retail, a game that was tailor made for the modern gamer.
So there has to be some focus on authenticity in Classic. There has to be instances where Blizz just tells those people no. It can’t all be focused on satisfying the stated wants of modern gamers, because otherwise there is no point in even having Classic.
Classic was made in order to expand WoW’s market share to recapture the old school gamers that they lost as WoW evolved. And if they want to retain that newly recaptured market, then authenticity has to be a primary goal. And I think it still is, with a few exceptions. But those exceptions need to remain few.
It’s relevant to how well I understand the druid class, lol, which was your accusation.
Even in the original quote, I specifically gave an exemption for “tri-hybrids”, which…includes druids, friend-o.
This was their logic in regards to faction or race changes. Dual spec is not mentioned. So, again:
“This is my extrapolation/interpretation of their words that I will pass off as fact for the 1001st time!”
It’s not optional. Everyone in my raid will likely have dual spec and my gameplay will be affected by everyone being able to take advantage of that feature. I will be exposed to the effects of dual spec’s addition by force.
Wrong wrong wrong. They already can do that. Nothing is stolping them. My guild does it all the time. Nobody asked to have spec changes added to the game. Its already there. Durrrrr. This is the funniest sht i love to see from you simpletons. You want so bad for me to not be able to respec thaf you start believing its not possible. Lmao. Omg. To funny.
You are reaching for it if you are trying to say that because you dont have to wait for them to hearth and then get summined back is changing your game. Yeah it is. In a good way. Again. Durrrr
Which is something Blizzard will take into account… but unlikely with the same jaded hatred of every modern feature. I get this is why YOU don’t want them, but this doesn’t really have much bearing on Blizzard.
Yeah, but with Blizzard saying “we want it to be authentic, and we’ll make it more authentic by modifying it!” you aren’t really going to have the same meaning of “authenticity” as Blizzard. I mean right after Lawson said they’d make changes to TBCC that “felt” appropriate in memory, Longdale said they were being “100% faithful”
This is an ought. You believe the best way forward for Blizzard’s own interests is to maintain an authenticity that you feel is best for the game. That’s great.
That’s not a restriction on Blizzard.
That’s not even the same ought that Blizzard feels it has.
The interview makes clear that rigid adherence to #nochanges is flatly unworkable. The interview also makes it clear that they’re going to be recreating TBCC for a modern era of modern players and modern communities. You’re going to keep a lot of the TBC stuff, but you’re going to lose things that Blizzard says is going to go, and they’ve already done that a lot.
What you want != what Blizzard can or will do.
/headdesk
Whole quote:
We always take a look at what makes sense, but some of those things didn’t exist in Burning Crusade . We don’t have any plans for anything other than what we’ve announced here for the launch of Burning Crusade . If it comes to pass that there’s a lot of people that really need that faction change, or they are really interested in a race change, we can reevaluate that choice. But as of today, we’re not planning to do that.
Things that weren’t in may make sense to add simply because people claim to need or be interested in them. Holy crap you’re dense.
I would likely be able to count on one hand the number of times we’ve had someone leave to respec and get summoned back. I can’t even remember an instance, I’m only saying that to leave the possibility open that it has happened.
Also, you mean to tell me you have people who have to hearth and respec “all the time” for bosses in Kara/Mag/Gruul?! How bad is your guild? I’m gonna go ahead and call BS.
Let’s see some logs for proof.
If dual spec existed, this flexibility would be ubiquitous.
Dude, when I read that quote, I get a completely different answer that what you keep interpreting. I’m not going to bother battling you over it, because that’s an exercise in complete pointlessness, but I’ll go ahead and lay it out for you.
Big “but” here. It indicates that they may hesitate if said change was not TBC-authentic.
This part really hurts your argument, because they didn’t mention or even reference dual spec at all, which according to this statement means it’s not being considered. However, as we’ve been over hundreds of times now, they can always make “new plans” because Blizzard “can do anything”.
Faction and race changes, while not around in TBC, aren’t in nearly the same category as dual spec, so to me, this doesn’t make the point you even think it’s making.
So again:
“I’m going to take my interpretation of their points and assert it as fact for the 1002nd time!”
Hardly, since they also don’t mention HvH BGs, Feral changes, Tinnitus, etc. Had they never made another change since, you’d have a bit more ground to stand on, but they have, and so you don’t.
This is just you inserting your bias now, and without warrant. Blizzard made no indication of differences in one change or another, but here you are adding restrictions (again). Anything can mean anything when you inject whatever you want into the sentence… but this is obvious to any ESL still getting through middle schooler.
So again:
Illiteracy is a problem that can be solved.
PS -
Patrick Dawson: “No changes” being our guiding principle for WoW Classic made it very easy to make decisions on it. We just went to the reference client and went to that. But one thing we learned as we went through the release of the content in Classic is that [no changes] may not always be in the best interest of the players. Putting back in things like spell batching made the game feel a little less crisp. It was authentic, but it’s not what modern players want. The community today is so different from what the community was back in 2007 that it had us take a different philosophy with Burning Crusad e, where we actually started to allow ourselves to make some changes that were in the best interests of the players that will continue to develop alongside the community.
Make changes in the best interests or want of the players, players whom are different from 2007 and modern.
Sorry, but you really need to work on basic reading.
The same principle still applies. The wealthier players or the players that know how to manipulate the AH, farm efficiently, etc. will have more gold to respec, make gear, etc.
Everyone knew what TBC was and what it was going to be. A main feature of WotLK was dual spec. Asking to get it now not only goes against precedent but cuts the legs out of a possible WotLk.
Let’s just be honest here… people don’t want to farm and there aren’t easy dailies to make quick gold YET (wait 1.5 weeks). If they get that then it’ll be something else they want because people seemingly love to complain.
