Refusing to use self-heal in a party will not net a heal from me

I am sorry, despite what the title says, if any time during the fight you refuse to heal yourself, I will not prioritize my heals on you. As any healers job we watch your health like a hawk. Any given time during a fight and your health does not move an inch outside of my healing, just means you’re making it hard on yourself, the group and the healer who has to burn more mana just to keep you alive.

Most classes in World Of Warcraft have some form of healing available to them, use it frequently especially during a time of struggle. The last few groups I ran with, DK and Fury wars self healed, the shaman and evoker absolutely refused to heal themselves. I played the evoker class, pretty sure they have a self-heal and shamans? self-explanatory…

It’s arbitrary, and there’s no telling how long the fight will last, no point in watching a healer burn their mana because you’re too lazy to use your own heals. Don’t pin it on healers, don’t “wheelchair” moment or “cry more” because I am struggling to keep a lazy butt alive. If you’re dying, and I know the group will suffice without you, run your butt back when you’re dead don’t expect me to revive you. As someone who plays multiple classes, rogue, fury war, dk, all my class have a self-heal, and I use them frequently even in groups.

Moral of this story… use your self-heals in and out of groups, its not that hard, healers shouldn’t have to struggle with mana-management.

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So we dont want you healing?

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Maybe stop spamming Chain Heal and you won’t have mana issues? As the healer it is your job to heal any unavoidable damage. Death Striking as a Frost DK destroys our DPS if I’m forced to use it during Breath of Sindragosa. If I do that then the pull takes even longer leading to you having to use more mana to heal.

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First the healers all over the forums don’t want to dps so Blizzard ramps up the damage and gives them something to heal, then healers all over the forums are complaining about having to heal. What do you actually feel like doing?

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In fairness, it doesn’t have to be the same people and the squeaky wheel makes a lot of noise.

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The people who would refuse to use their utility / defensives / self-healing don’t look at this forum. Perhaps you’d be better served to post this in GD.

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You want your caster dps to stop casting dps and cast heals on themselves so that the dungeon goes slower? Genius strat idk why you’re not running MDI

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You’re free to be part of the problem and increase your chances of bricking the key

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everybody except mages and warriors have an instant self cast healing spell they can use or talent into, lets say you are a lock, if you are too lazy to cast mortal coil, dark pact or use ur healthstone, i wonder whats wrong with said persons

Who are you complaining about?

What dps are actively refusing to self heal when needed?

mages have a shield to prevent damage, instant cast. warrior have a rage cost 30% self heal in impending victory. I’m just saying unless it’s a clutch life or death situation at very high keys with skilled players, I don’t think my dps are going to heal themselves. I typically will heal myself because I’m embarrassed that I stood in the bad.

I expect everyone in my groups to do what is necessary to win for the key in higher keys. If I’m good on healing I never expect or want DPS wasting resources on healing, but if something goes wrong or people are out of range/los or it’s a known healing intensive mechanic like Slicing Maelstrom then I absolutely expect people to stay alive however they can.

All of this just seems like common sense. So many weird goofy mindsets about the trinity role and what people SHOULD be doing.

I absolutely agree with you, it is all common sense. However, I don’t expect it because 3/5 players don’t interrupt/use utility spells/use cc in the average pug. It’s generally the tank and one random crankin dps. Healers are a godsend if they use purges, cc or do damage on top of the massive hps pulls they do.

It’s weird when I see a healer cries in the party chat “dps, cc ? Interrupt ?” Do healers still think they are playing classic wow with 0 cc nor interrupt at all ?

Honestly if I can get a hunter that presses more than Multi-shot and Kill Command I’m happy. Finding a healer that can dispell? HAHAHA

Yeah, self heals can make the difference in a fight, especially a long one like raid bosses, where if nobody self healed the healer would be oom real fast. I’m not vey good at hard endgame content, but as a mostly solo player, I learned long ago how to keep myself alive. Could be multiple reasons though, solo player who only has offensive spells keybinded, player doesn’t realize how fast mana burns, laziness, trolling, or even just don’t know their class.Keeping ones self alive is the first thing a person should learn. I’ve seen people stand in bad for entire encounters then yell at the healer for their health being low.

Unless you’re tracking their cooldowns, you’re just being silly. I often blow through all of my defensives and still don’t get healed by the healer. If you’re in keys and intentionally letting ppl die, you should be ashamed of yourself.

ah yes my 30 second CD self heal that actually heals me for… not very much and my other CDs that i already blew for a self heal at again not very much health being gained. Yes these are going to keep me alive not the healer. ffs

It’s also the job of others to help out when they take a ridiculous amount (this happens pretty often in the DF dungeons) from unavoidable sources. The healer covers the majority of it, so a little help goes a long way.

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I have no issues using Death Strike if I know the pull is going sideways, or if I get targeted by a nasty attack. Death Strike is there for me to use, and while it sucks using it during a Breath window, if it keeps me alive I’ll do it. But the OP makes it sound like if I’m at 80% health for the duration of a pull and I’m not using DS to heal myself I’m the problem. “If your health bar only moves when I heal you, you’re the problem” is essentially what OP said.

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