Refreshed Doom (Snapshot)

I was on a post that had comments that it was too old to bring back to life. So here is a new one before Shadowlands that we (warlocks) should talk about.

After looking at Doom, I heard about Snapshotting Doom DoT (Damage over Time) and some folks imply that this is current in BFA (One of the last skills that still can be Snapshot) similar to Legion feral snapshots just on a longer DoT (Feral Snapshot is dead in BFA). How it works is, in a boss fight with the huge Haste to start from lust/trinkets/etc, you can *Snapshot at the start. This takes the dot ticks on doom down from 30- 25 seconds to 15-10 seconds. To be effective you cannot let the DoT fall off. (This is False Tested)

I think Warlocks should talk about this more on Icy Veins, Discord, Forums etc. This is the strength of Doom and if it cannot be effectively snapshot and sustained it needs a Rework.

FYI: This post has nothing to do with the Doomgaurd or the 5% kill spawn which i feel is wild and never happens and impossible to time it. I’d Prefer if that stays on the DoomGaurd Watch Posting.

i feel like if it could be effectively snapshotted we wouldve used it by now and it would be seen as much more useful than the current waste of a talent slot it is. it functions like any other dot as far as i know. dynamic updates and all that

I tested and it with Drums and Imps. The first tick is indeed Snapshotting @ 14 seconds. However the Sustaining the DoT does not keep the remaining ticks cycling at 14 seconds. A refresh of the Dot resets it to the Haste at that time 18/20/24 and the tick will happen subsequently.

This means it is only with sustained high haste is this slightly more Viable. Does anyone know how high of haste you need for this to consistently have a <= 15 second Tick time?

You need 100% haste for a consistent 15 second Doom tick. Which is pretty doable with lots of expedient corruption and Explosive Potential traits.

Edit: That said, I still wouldn’t recommend it for PvE. I’ve heard through the grapevine that it sees some use in PvP, but I don’t pretend to know anything about PvP other than “chaos bolt hit real good.”

https://www.wowhead.com/demonology-warlock-rotation-guide Doom Explained well here.

I think Doom is one of the only dots who could get away with having snapshotting, at least on a tick per tick basis (it snapshots haste, but only that).