How is the new Tyr supposed to be the same as the one who died? New body, same memories. That’s like saying if you were vaporized by a teleporter and recreated at a different location that the newly recreated you is the same person.
He uploaded his memories onto a USB which we then plugged into the new body and downloaded them into it.
Similarly to how Sindragosa and Headmaster Doragosa made arcane copies of themselves before they left the Dragon Isles, known as a simulacrum.
Basically Tyr achieved digital transcendence.
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It’s not the same Tyr, though. The new Tyr is a clone.
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he’s got a new prosthetic body.
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No it is the same Tyr. We have seen in the past how you can place someone into a new body and they… mostly remain the same. I mean the Mogu did it with their souls so they could reverse the curse of flesh. Mechagnomes did it to Mimiron when he died in an “accident”. The Mechagnome body we see is not his original one. Hell Sargeras did it with Aggramar.
If we look at another game… Tyr’s new body is similar to that of Exo’s from Bungies Destiny series. Exo’s are mostly robotic bodies with the conscience of a human inside them. In Destiny 2 Beyond Light we actually find the main server where all of those who became Bray Tech branded Exo’s had their memories stored. Our ghost even wonders if we could upload a copy of Cayde into a new body. Although he also quickly realizes it would not be the same Cayde that we knew and loved. As that would be a Cayde who had not gone through a few resets, died and later was reborn as a Lightbearer.
There wasn’t a soul put into the new body. Just a copy of memories.
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read the second paragraph in the post you just responded to. I never claimed that Tyr’s soul was placed into the new body. Just so happened we have seen examples of something similar in the past. I then made an actual comparison to the Exo’s in Bungies Destiny 2.
As for the soul thing. Who knows, maybe Tyr placed a fragment of his into the disc as well. We know powerful individuals can divide their souls like this. The Titans did it when Sargeras killed them. Hell, Highkeeper Ra found out about this, drew out the fragment of Aman’thuls soul and fell into depression over it. We would later see Aman’thuls soul in Antrous, being tortured by Sargeras’ Coven. Even though the fragment Ra pulled out was later consumed by Lei Shen and later Wrathion. When the latter ate the formers heart. Sargeras also did it whenever he made an Avatar of himself.
The same old titan keeper manufacturing facility was used to make both bodies, and the memories and life experiences of the first was uploaded onto the second. If we’re sum of our memories and experiences then there is no “original Tyr” or “new Tyr”, rather they’re both the real Tyr.
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I guess there’s a little bit of this going on:
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To be fair, Zemus - The OP, stated they were essentially a clone & not the same Tyr. Which, objectively is correct.
To which you responded:
So Zemus’ response was valid …
Unless they explained in the questline / story that they had some titan-sequence-mumbo-jumbo that directs titanforged souls into their remade bodies upon creation, Zemus stating they’re merely a clone with the same memories and not the original / same Tyr – is relatively accurate.
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