Rearranging and Removing Portals

[Macällän-bronzebeard (Macällän)]

Is it just me or do people see the problem with unsubbing to send a message? You can’t post on these forums without and active account. Therefore Blizzard does not see why you leave except on quick, “I’m mad, I’m unsubbing.” post that can be glanced over quickly because there’s no real feedback. Then they calculate that the reason for the unsubbing en mass is because they’re not pushing current and new content enough. Rince and repeat until the game is unplayable except by those who live for new content.

This game has gotten way too big to be taking away portals. We want to play the game at the location we’re going to, not spend half the time traveling in a world we’ve already been through countless times. There are so many points to travel to and things to do now that it more than makes up for the ‘loss of travel’ that portals give.

I wish people couldn’t post without an active sub but as far as I know that bug hasn’t been fixed yet.

[Jalanilí-moon-guard-4790 (Jalanilí)]

It’s an easy fix really.
Add the deleted portals to the new portal rooms or give them to mages.

As someone who plays a mage occasionally, pleaseno don’t give them to mages. Just put them in the portal room.

I want to be able to play the game game, not the “pretend I didn’t see the increasingly aggressive whispers and party invites from people who want to go farm mounts and transmog” game.

[Nillah-uldaman (Nillah)]

You are the epitome of everything that is wrong with this game right now

If anything, I’d say the numbers disagree with you. But I guess have fun with classic when it comes out!

[Jopsy-grizzly-hills (Jopsy)]

Either way it DOES increase my time played to do that quest.

Same thing. You get less done during the same amount of time. If you choose to skip sleep/family-time/job-time/eating because you’ve GOT TO FINISH IT NOW, that’s on you.

[Kodai-lightbringer]

Yes, they can, and I wish you luck on your future MMO endeavors.

Unfortunately more and more WoW customers are doing this. It is not good for the game to reduce the community .

[Blays-bloodhoof]

I’ve wondered this about shard tech.

If the “world” only exists while a shard is populated, it makes sense to disincentivize people out of using most of the world. Fewer resources used if you’re scraping coppers.

Terrible for actual user gameplay. Nothing breaks immersion like seeing players, herbs, etc phase out in front of me

Every time I walk around a caplital city and it seems full, as soon as someone from my server or guild walks by, tons of people seem to phase out. This happens a ton on the docks by the ship currently. Right by the honorbound quest/rep NPC.

[Mahatma-blackwater-raiders (Mahatma)]

While doing this activity, do you do something besides traveling?

I farm nodes sometimes, if there is something I want to make or if I am working on my profession. I actually hate that they made professions require separate grinding. I liked being able to level my lower level profession skills by doing current stuff. Now I have to farm low level stuff just so I can have the skills.

Do you do it because you enjoy it or because you want the loot?

Both.

Would you do the content if the loot was elsewhere?

Probably not.

Would you like the chance of the loot dropping massively increased?

While a drop rate increase would be nice, it doesn’t need to be massive.

Would you like the loot to be inserted into current content?

Not at all. I like being able to one shot mobs that used to give me trouble. While it can be fun to test my skills against mobs of equal or higher level than my character, that can also become tiresome (prior to scaling being added to the old world, I once killed one of the elementals in Mt Hyjal on a level 66 death knight… that was cool). One shotting mobs reaffirms that I have actually made some progression on that character.

Would you be against every zone scaling to 120?

I would actively hate it if every zone scaled to 120. I don’t even like the scaling we have now. I would have much preferred it if they had gone with some kind of mentoring system (such as EQ2 has), so it would be optional. Unfortunately, Blizzard doesn’t seem to know what that word means.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

Yes, they can, and I wish you luck on your future MMO endeavors.

hows that Master Loot removal going for ya?
Saving you any time gearing up?

You have directed this line at me several times in the last few days, and then decline to respond when I both ask why and point out its non-applicability to my gaming style/preferences.

So, if someone else wants to take a stab at interpreting Taienna-ese, I am all ears.

yeah…my bad for not knowing that youre completely and utterly incapable of comprehending how ML being removed WASTED raiders time for no good reason…just like you are incapable of understanding how this portal removal wastes the time of old world farmers.

Go play your game now.
None of this affects you either way.

[Phydeaux-windrunner (Phydeaux)]

Why does Blizz ask for feedback if they are just going to ignore it and do what they want anyway if it doesn’t go their way? That’s pretty rude.

If you are ever able to get an answer for that please share it with the community.

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

yeah…my bad for not knowing that youre completely and utterly incapable of comprehending

Might wanna shift to a lower gear there, before certain forum overseers begin to take notice. It is possible to discuss something passionately without an edge of nastiness.

Have one of Grumbles’ , they are delicious.

how ML being removed WASTED raiders time for no good reason…

I am well aware of the ML vs. PL debate, but to my knowledge I have not entered an opinion in to any of the many discussions, nor do I plan to at this time.

just like you are incapable of understanding how this portal removal wastes the time of old world farmers.

It doesn’t waste my time, and I am an old world farmer as well.

Go play your game now.
None of this affects you either way.

Yet it does.

[Mahatma-blackwater-raiders (Mahatma)]

the idea of blocking new content to not inconvenience old content farmers is really dangerous.

Just how would keeping the portals that currently exist “block” new content?

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

Why does Blizz ask for feedback if they are just going to ignore it and do what they want anyway if it doesn’t go their way? That’s pretty rude.

If you are ever able to get an answer for that please share it with the community.

It has been answered many times. The problem arises because you equate “Blizzard didn’t agree with my feedback” with “Blizzard ignored my feedback.”

[Jopsy-grizzly-hills (Jopsy)]

By radically reducing the demand for legacy zones, they can retire or re-assign those servers.

I’m still of the opinion that while what you’re saying is true on its face, there are NO MORE REALM SERVERS. Everything is a part of the WOW CLOUD and if a bunch of people in a WSG suddenly need more CPU cycles, the WOW CLOUD allocates the CPU time.

Sorry, didn’t mean to be ambiguous… “they can retire or re-assign the resources that support virtual shard/zone instances”.

I would presume (I may be mistaken) that those resources are partitioned or at least reserved for specific uses rather than all lumped into one pool. Ie: warmode vs non, realm-timezone/wargroup/RP, etc.

[Phydeaux-windrunner (Phydeaux)]

It has been answered many times. The problem arises because you equate “Blizzard didn’t agree with my feedback” with “Blizzard ignored my feedback.”

No, not really. Can you give 3 examples in the past 3 years where feedback has been listened to and changes have been reverted?

[Jose-blackwater-raiders (Jose)]

Y’all are getting sucked into circular tangential arguments by Blizz’s defenders.

If someone isn’t arguing on the merits of the subject, ignore them.

[Taopantsfu-darkspear]

Kaivax, the supportive half of the community on this measure put together a few more modifications the team could make to introduce more realism, depth, and scope.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ayn0c5/predict_the_next_unnecessary_random_change_in_wow/

[Tsaifeh-kirin-tor]

All right.

Here’s the problem:

You’re getting rid of quick access to central locations in Pandaria. This is especially egregious for Pandaria, since the majority of endgame content is to the west, and the portal is in the easternmost zone.

Look, if you want to mitigate the use of faction hubs from previous expansions, that’s great. Strip out the extra portals to faction capital cities after an expansion, it makes sense.

The other stuff makes less sense. The portals beneath Legion Dalaran were a tremendous convenience, and their removal is at least as tremendously painful. I really liked the feeling of being able to come up with a shortcut through New Dalaran, and in less than a week you’re taking that from me.

For people playing through these zones at level, the placement of the portals more or less makes sense. For the ever growing number of characters who are revisiting old content, their usefulness is a crapshoot.

I can see how this could be a good idea. But it’s a poor execution, and while you’ve got angry people here saying they’re done and letting their subscription run out now, I’d keep an eye on late in the expansion, whole waiting for the next one. That’s usually high time to play through the old stuff, and while I doubt many players will immediately recoil in horror and jump ship when they realize that there’s a couple extra minutes here and there, the cumulative effect will sour some people deeply as they just have a little less fun constantly with every little extra leg of a trip.

Sure, I’ll stick around a while longer, but I might take the next expansion off.

[Feroshima-sargeras]

Caverns of Time is the big one that will be a pain in the neck to get to for farming of the various raids & dungeons in there. If you want us running old content for stuff, don’t make it so difficult to get to, it’s that simple!

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

Might wanna shift to a lower gear there, before certain forum overseers begin to take notice. It is possible to discuss something passionately without an edge of nastiness.

Sorry, theres nothing to oversee. You admitted to being unable to understand the ML issue, simple as that.
You clearly have no use for the missing portals…thus you have no dog in this race…and youve admitted that ML removal has no bearing on your game.
There is nothing you have to offer here of any possible relevance.
trolling is pretty much the only input you could possibly bring to this discussion.

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

It has been answered many times. The problem arises because you equate “Blizzard didn’t agree with my feedback” with “Blizzard ignored my feedback.”

No, not really. Can you give 3 examples in the past 3 years where feedback has been listened to and changes have been reverted?

The problem arises because you equate “Blizzard didn’t agree with my feedback” with “Blizzard ignored my feedback.”

You are literally doing what I just pointed out is wrong.