The beacons have been lit! Grobbulus players call for aid!
Allow the Grobb-mob the same agency you have offered all other players!
Investigate guild transfer or achievement preservation for those leaving their homes!
Open the door to BSB for those who want to escape the mega-server roll out!
We will gladly welcome anyone to our Eternal Vale!
Open up opportunities for Grobb to transfer off to other servers. At the very least, give Grobb folks the opportunity to transfer for free to BSB, if they neither want a mega server environment nor want to potentially suffer a slow raid environment death if your plan doesn’t pan out.
Also, guild transfers. This is global. You need to make that work for people to be happy. Feats of Strength will vanish with your current plans. Or, failing that, everyone thats being bullied into moving, should include Pagle, so everyone has an opportunity to get those realm first achievements again via a new mega server.
Create a new Feat of Strength for the realm first kills starting from T11 to T14 to assign to players accounts specifically that earned each of those kills per server. This workaround would help the players at least keep those accolades no matter what server they end up on, as you stated before you don’t want to disrupt “server identity” as best you can. Players who participated in realm first kills are a huge part of the concept of what makes up server identity.
I am still unclear what is the rush on server migration where you will not put the community first and delay the migration until you can add Guild Transfers to classic realms since it is already available in retail? I am understanding that Blizzard has reduced your staffing, but it still doesn’t make sense to rush something that 90% of the community is very upset about with Guild Achievements and their Perks. You already have in place 2 viable options that exists in retail to solve this problem with Guild Transfers and when you did [Blizzard referred to the feature of connecting realms as “Connected Realms.” This allows players on multiple realms to exist in the same physical space, enabling them to raid together and join each other’s guilds.
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We would like to see you guys be more transparent, and be honest, so we can close out friendships in Classic if the overall goal for Blizzard on the Classic Experience is to make Mists the last chapter in this journey. Then it would make more sense on why you guys are fighting and deflecting the issue on why you guys are reluctant with Guild Transfers and given us a BS response on not enough time. If this is the case it is fine just try and be honest for change, and it would allow us to properly spend the remaining time to make memories and say goodbye to the friendships we have made over the past 6 years properly.
I hope they don’t stop with MoP. I’d really like to play Legion again.
I’m not sure how you haven’t recognized all the questions about transfers off Grobbulus as people being unhappy there. Sure, BIGPVP may be happy but the raiders are not and have not been since Cata (though, really the exodus started before ICC). With every group that leaves, it makes it harder and harder to fill the remaining raids. The raiders that are left are either die hard Grobb supporters or people who have been waiting for free transfers since Firelands.
This phase, we had more raiders leave because they didn’t want to deal with BIGPVP and their affiliates ganking all the time.
Honestly, it’s too little too late for a lot of these servers and nothing at all for Grobbulus. The people who would come to Grobbulus for PVP have probably already done so (as my old guild did after TBC)…why stay on a single faction server if you want to kill other players? We’re not going to get an influx of people and those we do get likely won’t be raiders so you’re not solving any of our problems.
Bare minimum, Grobbulus should have access to the same options as the other servers. The smart solution would be to link everyone and give us all the warmode option that allows you to turn your PVP status off if you don’t want to deal with it and on if you want to go kill/risk being killed by other players.
Agree in full. Grobbulus should be given the option to move.
Asking to be treated equally is all that is really being asked right?
Because right now, to be frank, raiders of Grobbulus are being held in spot more or less as part of an experiment. Although, if in an experiment you don’t allow certain variables to occur because the person conducting it wants to force out an outcome than the experiment is moot.
If Blizzard wants to see if WPVP is a big deal than put it on the line. The people that want to go there will go there. The people that want to stay will stay. Those that don’t, won’t. Then you have the real world result to is this really a big thing or not.
I hope it is, I do not want WPVPer’s to be robbed a server for them to do their thing on, but it shouldn’t be at the expense of people that want to join the other larger PVE server. It isn’t right. It isn’t fair. It doesn’t actually show the results of the WPVP question.
Your post kinda suggests that BIGPvP forced people out of Grobbulus because they werent interested in the whole getting-ganked-hours-on-end-shebang. I aint trying push any agenda or propaganda here… just asking. 
Is there a cap? How much can we transfer???
there is no cap, free character migration has no restrictions
No, you are right.
Why a small server or two can’t be an option baffles me. Not everyone likes megaservers with 10 layers and 40k people.
For what its worth, they did backtrack on BSB’s closure.
This logic makes no sense because the people who want to transfer off of Grobb are not the same people who are participating in this magical fantasy RP-PVP world you’re imagining still exists. There haven’t been any meaningful instances of WPVP on Grobb since Wrath.
You can allow people the opportunity to transfer to Grobb and test out this pet theory and also allow those who no longer want to participate in random griefer activity go on their merry way.
So give us back the money we invested in our guilds so it won’t be as expensive
They are leaving one now but I think the reason it wasn’t part of the original plan is those small servers become a trap to all but a tiny group of players. If someone invests time there and realizes it’s not working out because there’s so few people there to play with (maybe they tried one of the few guilds, didn’t like it and now have nowhere else to go), they have to pay to transfer later or re-roll. Free transfers forever wouldn’t be an option since it’s easy to exploit (farm stuff on the dead/empty server on bots/alts and transfer).
Small sub-groups that keep to themselves also can function just fine on mega-servers (or in cross-realm zones). Never wanting to see people outside of your sub-group is wanting to play something other than an MMO. You don’t always get to choose who else is around in an MMO.
I do think with improvements to the layer/sharding system you could make things better for people so they could keep to the same shard/layer number intentionally and maybe prefer a sparse one where others prefer a dense one. A layer menu with a cooldown on swapping would let players essentially create more consistent sub-server communities, commonly seeing the same people on a mega-server (without easily exploiting resource farming with rapid shard hopping).
I wholly agree with everything you said.
“5 people”
QQ retail kiddie
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Can we get Grobb reclassified as a PvP server without the RP qualifier? Given that it’s the only option for a PvP server for anyone to go to, I really don’t want to be eating bans due to an RP ruleset that I have no choice in the matter to go into.