Could you guys please just please unlock part 2 earlier at least if you're actually gonna do Pathfinder achieves again? I don't want flying after I've gotten bored with the new zones, I want flying while I can still enjoy them.
Consider not doing pathfinder at all, since new and returning players learning that they can't fly without 7+ months of dedication is gonna make them cringe and go play GW2. I know, from experience. This whole jumping through hoops for something we've had since TBC is ridiculous.
I understand some people don't like flying, but hey maybe you should just "Keep yer feet on tha ground." and stop bringing everyone else down.
This is a selling point that the game has used time and time again, hell when sub numbers got low, blizz launched an AD campaign that ran on facebook and other social sites with the title "Flying has returned" Or some such nonsense. (This was when pathfinder part two came out in Legion.)
It turned my stomach, We All (Mostly Excluding 2 sadists) Hate Pathfinder. No one goes yes, gotta log in and do those world quests, It's silly. This is not a middle ground. This is taurencrud. It would be a middle ground if I could drop everything I'm doing right now and grind for it, because I want it. I should not have to wait 7+ months for something that HAS BEEN AND ONCE WAS BASELINE! By the time we unlock flying we're bored with the zones, and it doesn't feel worth it. I can just leave Boralus the new area I and everyone else paid $55.62 for and fly with no issues.
TL;DR I'm ranting like a baby, because I just want to fly and love every little thing about this expansion. AND DADDY ISN'T LETTING ME DO THAT, BECAUSE I MUST LEARN FIRST! No! No NO NO! It's not fair. It's just not.
Edited: Because I was speaking for people, sorry just trying to make a point that this is not a middle-ground.
Edited: Poll Link For Sciencey stuff https://www.strawpoll.me/16326503/r
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New players will not care about flying, and if they do, they probably weren't going to stick around anyways with or without. Most MMORPGs don't allow you to skip 90% of the world content by flying over it.
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08/24/2018 12:55 AMPosted by
Gimbus
We All Hate Pathfinder.
Speak for yourself. I love Pathfinder. Any and all steam you had with your post? Gone right here when you try to speak for someone else.
Speak for you. Speak only for you. State only that which you believe. Do not speak for me. You'll have a lot more traction when you follow that line of thinking.
We know no flying sucks.. but the whistle on a 5min CD isn't bad i swear... not sure why people are making without flying it's game breaking.
I agree mate. Time gatting Pathfinder II such crock. Just another Blizz excuse to keep everyone subbed. Considering ESO doesn't have flying and consider it "part of their lore" and refuse to let up on that belief. GW2 has all this gliding for mounts....very confusing. Sure would love one of you who plays to help me understand. I'm not sure about FFXIV I think its for "certain zones". SWTOR of course doesn't have flying only ground mounts and hovering ground mounts. If implemented it would break their upgraded consolidated hero engine.
08/24/2018 12:58 AMPosted by
Shadina
08/24/2018 12:55 AMPosted by
Gimbus
We All Hate Pathfinder.
Speak for yourself. I love Pathfinder.
What kinda sadist are you? To love something that causes so much pain to others?
Want to experience the new beautiful zones? Nop can't cuz you're just skipping them. No, I'm not. I'm experiencing them from a new angle. I'm doing what I like, it is not immersive to magically have all of your hard mounts you worked for, just stop knowing how to fly. At least have the respect to recognize the wrong doing on Blizzards part.
You may like Pathfinder, but how does the majority feel? They just roll over and take it. That's the current stance on the majority, just take it. Accept that it's a thing. Why? Isn't this community supposed to mean something?
so "why should we work for something"
these posts are getting out of hand now
08/24/2018 12:57 AMPosted by
Quee
Most MMORPGs don't allow you to skip 90% of the world content by flying over it.
Most MMORPGs don't have the luxury to take away a feature/ability that was a MAJOR selling point. Most MMORPGs aren't even as close to WoW because of the features WoW has. Also how about a more fair middle ground like some sort of buff to not using flying, like toggling fly mode off in Stormwind and getting more XP for leveling without it? Would that satisfy you?
As long as Ion is in charge Path-Finder is here to stay. Blizzard really wanted to end flying in WoD that was their original plan but too many people quit.
I wished they allow flying in the capital city at least because that's a pain to travel in too many stairs.
Its all about playtime now. That's why we have path-finder, rep grinds, and low weapon drops. Blizzard wants to stretch it out so we keep subbing.
08/24/2018 01:08 AMPosted by
Gimbus
What kinda sadist are you? To love something that causes so much pain to others?
It has nothing to do with any of that. I'm certainly not a sadist. Well, not in this department. But it has nothing to do with that because I
do not care about your playing experience. I care about mine. I enjoy Pathfinder. Get over it.
08/24/2018 01:08 AMPosted by
Gimbus
Want to experience the new beautiful zones? Nop can't cuz you're just skipping them. No, I'm not. I'm experiencing them from a new angle. I'm doing what I like, it is not immersive to magically have all of your hard mounts you worked for, just stop knowing how to fly. At least have the respect to recognize the wrong doing on Blizzards part.
I don't think it's wrongdoing. You calling it wrongdoing is your opinion. And that's all there is to it. As a world pvp enthusiast who absolutely loves gunning people down, I enjoy the fact they can't get on a flying mount and just disengage from an encounter they may or may not have started. There's zero wrong with Blizzard thinking the player should learn the terrain from one angle so they can learn it from another angle later on. And let's be honest, it's more difficult to learn the terrain from the ground than it is from the air.
Pathfinder is good for so many reasons, including alts. It's meant to be an aspect of New Game+. Not something you have immediately. And I agree with that mentality. Blizz has my vote on that one.
08/24/2018 01:08 AMPosted by
Gimbus
You may like Pathfinder, but how does the majority feel? They just roll over and take it. That's the current stance on the majority, just take it. Accept that it's a thing. Why? Isn't this community supposed to mean something?
Don't care. I told you that you don't speak for me. When you speak for everyone, as you did when you said "we all hate pathfinder" then you are wrong. You do not speak for everyone. You speak for you. End of conversation.
08/24/2018 01:08 AMPosted by
Junò
so "why should we work for something"
these posts are getting out of hand now
Use some other strat to your argument. I have worked for it, and paid for it.
Several times over. It isn't working for it to just wait 7+ months and do the same old thing over and over. Player reception is mixed because as stated the majority is just accepting the current Pathfinder Achievements.
08/24/2018 01:13 AMPosted by
Gimbus
08/24/2018 01:08 AMPosted by
Junò
so "why should we work for something"
these posts are getting out of hand now
Use some other strat to your argument. I have worked for it, and paid for it.
Several times over. It isn't working for it to just wait 7+ months and do the same old thing over and over. Player reception is mixed because as stated the majority is just accepting the current Pathfinder Achievements.
than dont work for it an dont pay for it
play the game an take flight paths if you want something for content that its not intended for than you work for it like everyone else is going to do
you people really want everything handed to you on as silver platter
Thank you for speaking for you, I take your comment to heart, and you have dutifully changed my mind.
08/24/2018 01:08 AMPosted by
Junò
so "why should we work for something"
these posts are getting out of hand now
Look at how FFXIV handles flying for expansions. You unlock it per zone, only after you've explored it to find the hidden points on the map, many of which are only available after completing the quests of the zone. Once you are done the zone, search it high and low, you unlock flying. Do the same for the rest of them.
In WoW it's used as a carrot on a stick to keep players active in the world instead of what it's supposed to be used for: Ensuring you've learned the world.
Half of Pathfinder 1 ensures players do all the content and fully explore the continents. At this point you've already done what FFXIV has done, if not more. The full grind for reputations is a bit overkill.... and then there's a part 2 which has more of the same? Like really it's overkill.
It also doesn't allow having cool areas accessible with only flying, that was something the previous expansions did before which was nice. Once you got flying, you could finally go to that mysterious place in the sky. Now everything is flat with a few mountains here and there.
delete flying it ruins an already streamlines game and is terrible for pvp
08/24/2018 12:55 AMPosted by
Gimbus
We All Hate Pathfinder
you don't speak for me, I like moving through the world as opposed to flying over it
pointless thread. Expansion is based around keeping you subbed longer. Adding flying early will make you finish world quests faster and make you realize there's nothing to do.
08/24/2018 01:17 AMPosted by
Nephis
08/24/2018 01:08 AMPosted by
Junò
so "why should we work for something"
these posts are getting out of hand now
Look at how FFXIV handles flying for expansions. You unlock it per zone, only after you've explored it to find the hidden points on the map, many of which are only available after completing the quests of the zone. Once you are done the zone, search it high and low, you unlock flying. Do the same for the rest of them.
In WoW it's used as a carrot on a stick to keep players active in the world instead of what it's supposed to be used for: Ensuring you've learned the world.
Half of Pathfinder 1 ensures players do all the content and fully explore the continents. At this point you've already done what FFXIV has done, if not more. The full grind for reputations is a bit overkill.... and then there's a part 2 which has more of the same? Like really it's overkill.
It also doesn't allow having cool areas accessible with only flying, that was something the previous expansions did before which was nice. Once you got flying, you could finally go to that mysterious place in the sky. Now everything is flat with a few mountains here and there.
its not a flying hater thing from me
its a "i dont wana work hard for it so give it to me" problem from you guys this content is not made for flying it hasnt been made for flying in a while if you want flying for content that its not made for than you get to put out the little extra bit of work its going to take for it
woah only 2 weeks in pretty much and people are already complaining about not flying HUH