Really neat to see they're removing Vanish and Feign Death from the new hardcore servers

Being able to “Bubble Hearth” is a fairly iconic, if not exactly heroic, feature of the Paladin Class. However, the Reincarnation ability is also an iconic feature of the Shaman class. While Paladins have enormous tools to prevent death, a Shaman’s core tool to recover from death is wholly incompatible with Hardcore. As a result, we are removing the ability for Paladins to use their various immunity abilities to safely cast Hearthstone and escape danger.

They’d have to, right? They’re removing core class features that get you out of dying?

They’ll have to remove petri pots as well. Wouldn’t want anyone to have the ability to get out of a sticky situation.

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Can Bubble/Hearth fail or be resisted?

And on the other hand does Feign Death and Vanish not only remove me from combat, make me immune to any type of incoming damage, while also completely removing me from any type of danger by sending me to my hearth location?

Let’s also not forget that they aren’t removing your ability to use your bubble, only your ability to hearth while it’s active.

Imagine watching a Pally Bubble Hearth and then watch a Hunter using Feing Death in the middle of respawns, in a cave or almost anywhere really and think “Yeah that’s the same thing.”

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Bubble Hearthing isn’t an exploit either.

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Blizz is trying to be cool by copying some of the features from the HC addon, but not too much, retail Andy can still buy his gold to twink his char.

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Ankh doesn’t “get you out of dying” you have to die to use it in the first place

Feign death isn’t 100% fool proof and neither is vanish.

Bubble hearth is a meme, you do it cause you’re dead.

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Certainly isn’t anymore since they got rid of it.

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Get over it, you can still bubble, you just can’t hearth WHILE bubbled.

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Very different. Bubble hearth is 100 % save your a$$ if you were going to die. You could jump in lava and bubble hearth.
Try to vanish or feign death out of lava now. Good luck

When vanish and feign death transport your character to a safe rested area, then we can talk.

Sorry, but there’s nothing hardcore about waiting for your bubble/hearth CDs to reset every time you step foot outside of a safe zone.

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you can use hearth while pretending to be dead?

Tell that to the alliance using it to exploting AV back in 2019

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Send in the clowns…where are the clowns…

All you people puttin’ on yer clown shoes tonight are keeping me busy.

Personally, i think paladin hate goes back to the warrior developers and their “duels” against paladins in alpha. But that’s a different topic as far as this one is concerned. It’s ABSOLUTELY neccesary in a Hardcore realm. i had thought about rolling a paladin because i could bubble hearth, and “get away with” an easy adavantage that no other class has, and that hyperboles sums up some of the HC classic aversion to some of these abilites. On a regular pve and pvp server it’s probably (most likely) working as intended, but reasons why it would be working as intended and that justification, probably go back to aplha, and those 'developer warrior duels". Here, should avoid being (which post was that said it? 2nd one in this thread?) 'rectally challenged by it, and move on with l.ife.

HC is such a meme

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Of all of Blizzard’s numerous blunders and displays of utter buffoonery, this HC realm thing is surely going to take the cake. It is going to be hilarious.

Thing that they don’t seem to get is that when they attempt to emulate player created content, it never seems to gain the traction that the player generated content did.,

In this situation inthink they are 6 months behind

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They dont even remove bubble… they just disable using hearthstone while having that one on… so this post is just 0/10

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Great point. They really shouldn’t remove core class features from the game. Glad you got there on your own.

Seems like a skill issue.

You actually can’t use it while dead.

Dont jump in lava.

Yes, that would be a pretty terrible way to play the game. Fortunately, no one would do that.

There is still petri flask which will be decently annoying to obtain the first couple months.

Feign death can fail

You can screw up a vanish.