Really Disappointed In Streamers for This

Barick-stormrage · May 19, 2019, 3:10pm

He has no clue what he’s talking about. The vast majority of the classic population will be working adults that have never touched a Pserver. Unless you already have a group of 40 people that will be no life the game it will be very hard to get into MC within the first few months before most people hit 60 and get ready for it.

Dealloc-dethecus · May 19, 2019, 3:18pm

Yeah it’s really a mathematical thing, but close enough.

Swani-arathor · May 19, 2019, 3:19pm

That’s transitive relation, not property.

Dirtytape-proudmoore · May 19, 2019, 3:20pm

What caused the team that made nastalrius make that particular private server? What influenced them for that decision? So how this works? You’re going in circles.

Dealloc-dethecus · May 19, 2019, 3:21pm

Transitive Property of Equality is the full mathematical term.

Dealloc-dethecus · May 19, 2019, 3:23pm

And by removing private server influence you break the circle and we never get to Classic.

Nostalrius led to Classic. Deny it if you wish. You’ll just be wrong.

Swani-arathor · May 19, 2019, 3:23pm

Ahhh, ok yes. But if you just say transitive property you get this;

https://www.dictionary.com/e/memes/transitive-property/

And I was thinking of this;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitive_relation

Dirtytape-proudmoore · May 19, 2019, 3:25pm

Oh so now it’s private servers and not just nostalrius? You will use anything to keep from believing you’re wrong. I’ts fun pushing your buttons though.

Dealloc-dethecus · May 19, 2019, 3:26pm

K well I have beta access and you don’t so I win.

Dirtytape-proudmoore · May 19, 2019, 4:10pm

Oh but I do.mic drop

Loial-shadowsong · May 19, 2019, 4:40pm

Tips is laughably bad at WoW. If you want some good advice on how to hold your group back, do what he is doing.

Dealloc-dethecus · May 19, 2019, 4:52pm

Congrats!

Goldenforce-the-venture-co · May 19, 2019, 5:03pm

Ya that’s bs and don’t listen to anyone agreeing with that either. The entire game is on the internet. You can learn each fight as you progress through the game if you’re having problems by just watching youtube. To think someone is going to download the private server, get to 60, gear up, raid and learn all the fights just to play classic is asinine. Again, don’t listen to these people. It’s not that serious.

Zagzig-doomhammer · May 19, 2019, 5:08pm

Tipsout is your typical elitist who in reality, is a sub average player.

Anzsu-drenden · May 19, 2019, 5:08pm

Chawana:

Buldranen:

“If you want to raid and be successful in the high end of pvp and pve and you havn’t played before then you are really doing yourself a disservice by not going and practicing levelling on a private server. if you hop into classic on launch without that knowledge and you want to be a high end raider then all those guys that practiced on pservers will be 60 when you are 40 in STV and then you will just be too far behind to catch up”

Look, I know it’s easy to hate on Tipsout because

Anzsu:

is this the same person who ran face first into a boss with broken armor, while his healer was out of mana and got one shot? then reported it as -a bug-?

who would take this guy serious AT ALL, at this point? real question.

This is 1-2 days fresh in peoples’ minds, but let’s look at what he’s ACTUALLY saying:

IF you want to raid in a high-end guild.

Not everyone needs to do this; he said IF.

You’re doing yourself a disservice.

Why can’t he say this? It’s objectively true that there are things you can learn that will help you understand things.

if you hop into classic on launch without that knowledge and you want to be a high end raider then all those guys that practiced on pservers will be 60 when you are 40 in STV and then you will just be too far behind to catch up”

Catch up to who?
The high-end raiders. It’s an objective fact that you will not catch up to them…and that’s fine. (Edit: in server first races, that is. Woops.)

OP, I am not a huge Tipsout fan, but there’s clearly missing context in your complaint. I’d appreciate a clip of what he said with the question he read, because to me it sounds like he was replying to someone who wanted to be in a server first guild.

Why do I think there’s missing context? It’s a guess based on this:

guys that practiced on pservers will be 60 when you are 40 in STV and then you will just be too far behind to catch up”

Which is moreso ignorance than ‘gate-keeping’ (uhg, this word is trending and it’s annoying.) Would I put it past him to say something like this? Nope, but it would be due to a lack of articulation and not because he’s being elitist…or so it would seem.

Again, I can’t take your thread seriously until I see the question asked and how he responded exactly.

Right now, you’re being a sensationalist journalist, and I dislike those people FAR more than Tips.

not sure why you are replying to me. i asked a question and it was answered. though i did ask a question myself and in all honesty, why do streamers get exceptions from normal players? on stream, in beta, tips proved to be the worst tank that could ever exist. let alone the worst player. i get that his specific followers will defend him but roast any other tank/player who did the exact same thing. but as i said in another topic; vanilla> reputation. for me, the -reporting it as a bug- was just icing on the cake. he claims to be hard core, while leaving his heals behind with broken armor. i can even understand some elitist tanks leaving their heals behind but broken armor? BROKEN armor. and got ONE SHOT. complete joke.
as far as his comments about psevers, why do i care exactly? i know its nonsense. and most rational people will too. i see it as a non issue.

Sourfat-tichondrius · May 19, 2019, 5:11pm

First of all, there is no way you will not be able to catch up. Eventually you will hit max level and people that think like you will begin forming their own guilds. With months you will know better and better the mechanics of the game, so it’s practically im possible for you to stay behind completely unless you allow yourself to. Also you are kind of asking people to look at this in a positive and reasonable way, and that is just very difficult. WoW community is toxic and pretty radical so you gotta deal with it. Go and play hard when it comes out and don’t worry about the future.

Gorelol-ravencrest · May 19, 2019, 5:12pm

give it time his community will turn on him eventually.

Zagzig-doomhammer · May 19, 2019, 5:12pm

You don’t need to practice to “keep up with tips” LOL. Bug report Boss hits me hard.

Bjornagn-dalaran · May 19, 2019, 5:29pm

This is why Classic will become an echo chamber of smug, elitist, players, They will eventually drown out any player who don’t fit into their “Classic or bust” mentality.

Anzsu-drenden · May 19, 2019, 5:31pm

which is only the streamers. blizzard pretty much guaranteed the toxicity when they gave them first/exclusive access. now they are marching around like they are gods gift to vanilla. aside from how bad they are at the game, my favorite is their -self proclaimed- position as #1 class. or claiming the -world records broken- lol.
just from what i see on twitch; you got 2 people from method claiming to be #1 paladin, in beta, of a game that isnt even out yet. worlds first whirlwind axe. wth does that even mean? so the first in the entire world to use an ability using an axe?? if i have to watch these people one more day, i will run away from wow screaming.