I enjoy watching streamers a lot, and especially these last couple days I have had a ton of fun. I hopped into Tipsout’s stream yesterday and was smacked immediately with this (below is an extremely close interpretation of what he was saying)
“If you want to raid and be successful in the high end of pvp and pve and you havn’t played before then you are really doing yourself a disservice by not going and practicing levelling on a private server. if you hop into classic on launch without that knowledge and you want to be a high end raider then all those guys that practiced on pservers will be 60 when you are 40 in STV and then you will just be too far behind to catch up”
He was responding to someone in chat who had asked a question about WoW, implying they were very interested but hadn’t played before.
This kind of gatekeeping INFURIATES ME. I really enjoy many of tipsouts videos, and his passion for classic is obvious. But telling people that if they dont get to 60 in the first week they will just never be able to catch up is despicable and fallacious. And why is this privileged streamer allowed to carry on about illegal private servers after being given special treatment by Blizz?
We need to be encouragin all kinds of players to join in on classic. Guaranteed there will be plenty of people who join for the first time and by phase 3 or 4 they are so into the game they are doing higher end content than tipsout, and in better guilds. Just cause they didnt start with all the information(lul. inaccurate) the pserver heros have doesnt mean they are going to be forever behind and can never catch up to the cutting edge.
Ok, i wont rant about it any longer. I am just SO disappointed because i want GOOD representatives for WoW classic, not know-it-all gatekeepers who insist you can never be as good as them unless you grind to lvl 60 ten times on pservers.
Great advice, go practice on a private server so you can get used to that then come on the forum and throw a tantrum because some private server inaccuracy won’t be in Classic like that MVP did earlier.
is this the same person who ran face first into a boss with broken armor, while his healer was out of mana and got one shot? then reported it as -a bug-?
who would take this guy serious AT ALL, at this point? real question.
TECHnically it was the community that are the reason this is happening. Pservers were jsut the most touted vehicle to show blizz the community was serious.
Then just group up with people who are not racing for lvl 60 first week and raid with them. I didn’t play that much during vanilla and I don’t want the info to be spoon feed to me, that’s why I want to create a guild with people who doesn’t have that much experience in vanilla and want to discover the game by themselves.
And yet, this giant voice for the classic wow game, who had about 9k viewers at the time, advised all those viewers that they needed to practice. In fact he responded to someone who hadnt played the game before but was interested that they should play pservers for “practice”
well he has a point in this regard: if you’ve never played vanilla era wow, you aren’t familar with the quest chains or the extent of requirements such as keys, mallets and rep grinds. for example the zul’farrak mallet is no longer required to bang the gong to summon gahz whatever his name is, but it is in vanilla and there’s a process to it.
lets put it this way: pservers are vanilla light, but they’re still vanilla enough to at least cut down the time required in discovery.
mind you, i am not a pserver person but his logic is not entirely unreasonable.
He does have some fairly high quality videos on youtube. Some are quite interesting, and he captures the passion for classic wow very well. His livestreaming is…clearly lacking
Elitists will be elitists, can’t change much about that. Gearing in Vanilla is a much slow pace than live, does not matter if you take a week or a month, or even three months to get to 60. Everyone just needs to relax and get back to enjoying the game.
This is what i am saying. I wish there were more streamers that would encourage people to play at their own pace. The MAJORITY of players who actually want to beat endgame content WILL be able to, they just wont be getting world-firsts and whatever. We shouldnt be telling people they can “never catch up to the actually good players” if they dont start practicing now or whatever.
Tipsout didnt play Vanilla. He will fall into irrelevancy, just ignore his ignorance and enjoy Classic. For every prick like him we should have 50 people willing to help and make the community a better place.