Im new to wow but have been playing mmos for a long ti e and have teied most of them but mainly gw2, eso and ff14. I started wow not to long ago and i have to say its pretty good, but the pvp rewards system is compmete garbage. Who at blizzard thought making their players have to do rated forced premade bgs or solo leaver shuffels if they want any significant amount of conquest to get decent gear. I que for 10 premade bgs and declined every one and have people constantly leaving shuffle half way through. This seriously the best options after all these years blizzerd, thats pretty sad. Rated or ranked could have slightly better rewards but the draw should be the ranked ladder system, a player should be able to farm the conquest respurces in all forms pvp and not get the disgustingly low amount of conquest u current get in unranked. Fix ur reward system.
That’s what they should actually call it LOL
What you’re pointing out though, 10 RBG declines, solo leavers, is that the players suck, it’s not really Blizzard’s fault.
Not Blizzard’s fault that everyone and their mother plays DPS anyway, they probably could do something about solo shuffle leavers like banning them 24h. If they DC just leave their character standing at the start for the rest of the games like regular arenas.
I get that its on the players and im not slamming the game, its fun but the devs should have thought about the fact that premade bgs can result in players being declined often if not high enough exp etc and the negative impact leavers could have on people trying to get conquest through ss. Why would they not have random bgs, epic bgs etc give a significant amount of conquest as well, i mean their still pvp modes after all. As it stands ur ability to farm conquest can soley be completely hampered by other players, thats a very bad system and u think theyd be able to do better, especially this far into the games life. Anyway just ranting, not a hardcore player nor ever be so doesnt really matter lol.
It is really really bad. But it’s a result of blizzard’s guiding principles on the game. Esports. Power in an MMO should be the result of time+effort w/competence of class = power.
The moment they departed from this, the game became more and more of a mess. Locking gear progression behind some macro weak aura mastery to the nth percentile is bad design. And gear should matter in BGs.
Simply organize the teams by ilevel average and get rid of factions for BGs. Arena can stay normalized for the eSports enjoyers. But getting rid of a gear carrot on a stick grind for all PVP is just silly.
I recently started doing RBGs for the conquest and the weekly loot, but the experience has been a terrible pain in the behind honestly.
I can’t find a single guild that will run pugs or new core teams for those with low CR, and joining a pug team can be a miserable experience because majority of the time people don’t follow simple strategies, don’t use CC properly, or they’re just undergeared.
I just left a group that had 2 people with 230k hp, one of them being the leader who tried farming honor from rated, and we only found out after the match had started… RBG is the only form of PVP I enjoy, but darn these issues do ruin the motivation to play it.
I just finally got into a rated rbg and half team quit at like 3 mins in, rest of us stayed tikl the end…0 conquest lmao, these devs really need to rethink the way u farm conquest. Rated/ranked pvp should be about the ladder and have some ranked only rewards, the resources like honor AND conquest of which u get better gear with to compete in rated should be reasonably farm-able in all pvp modes and should require 0 need to pregroup, and a smaller amount should be rewarded every loss and a larger amount for wins. Honestly decisions like im seeing in this games giving me doubts but for now having fun in bgs etc, once that runs its course ill just unsub and go back to gw2 or somthing, good to change things up often anyway as keeps things interesting lol.
You can get 1540 conquest a week doing just your daily unrated wins each day. That’s not counting the conquest you get from the war mode quest, from doing the first brawl of the week and any other weekly quests like the BG week quest, the “earn honor” for random/epic BG quest or even AOO if you are Alliance and it is active.
Getting conquest is really trivial even outside of rated. You will catch up quick even if you are behind and then capping 550 each week can be done on reset day without touching arena or rated BGs.
Gearing has never been this good, honestly. The only time getting conquest gear was easier was when it just took 10 wins in 2s to cap each week, but even then you had to do rated PvP to cap quickly. It’s extremely easy for non-rated PvPers to get BiS gear now, you just have to play the game.
Hell I’ll push it a step further I dont do any rated bgs and my DK was just made a week ago hes caught up in 1 weeks grind.
Regular bgs/epic bgs daily win
+War crates
+Bounties
Its taken me roughly 7 days to catch up to my main I would say thats pretty damn good catch up an gearing.
Even better ur soon gona be able to buy 2000 honor for 5 badges Ive got like 300 of them ez instant bg gear for futute alts.
Wow i play 4 hrs or so on weekend and about 1.5 hrs through week day and spam unrated bgs and dont get close to 1000 conquest to by gear from conquest vendo lol, maybe i just dont have enough time than haha for that one player easily getting 15k conquest, ive been getting like 40 conquest per bg win lol. How many bgs and how long u playing? Isnt that like 200+ bgs? Maybe im just missing somthing lol. Last night ran a solo 2 solo shuffles, 3 premade rated bgs and like 4 random bgs and ended the night with a gain of like 40 conquest cuz lost the rated bgs and ss matches. Filling vaults is easy but gaing conqueat to by vendor is what im finding to restricted.
This might not happen during the whole day though. I’ve been there.
Not everyone likes WM either. I don’t.
IIRC, PvP Gearing was somehow better in WoD, but the current system is great since we’re all almost even on ilvl with full honor vs full conquest, so, yeah…
2nd edit: for any future readers everything below is regular not ranked(casual player) this can be done with limited time.
Bounties I believe give 60 or 100 conq, supply crate is also something like 60-80 conq << daily reset btw 7 days of that alone hits the weekly 550 cap.( war chests and bounty bags give something per like 100 honor??)
Also daily reset first bg win is something like 70 conq and epic bgs first daily win is 110 conq. Then it goes around 15 conq for bg wins after first win I forget epics.
Honor is also fairly ez to obtain from bounties/bg quests(epic bgs) Ashran has collect 50 fragments gain 1000 honor.(backdoor kills) killing boss quest 250 conq.
Win Wintergrasp free 1000 honor +kill 10 horde players or npcs is another free conq gain.
Edited to add: there is no 15k conq limit.
Cap started at 1350 then each week after is +550 so with the above mentioned methods ur gona overcap very quickly.
RBGS are definitely a bit more frustrating to deal with because there’s way more people that gotta play optimally for your group to win. But look at it this way, everyone is farming conquest or the weekly loot, so if you’re doing 10 RBGs a week, you’re at least keeping up and getting somewhere with the gear.
I wish this was an option for Horde on Oceanic servers. Every crate has at least +20 ally camping it, and Horde on Oce are either outnumbered or just too scared to fight for it.
You can very much get BiS through unrated content, though you miss out on vault which means it will be slower.
1 skirmish, bg, ebg,brawl and supply crate a day. Do world quest for Bloody Token/conquest and do the weekly spark quest for epic wpvp gear.
Currently, the gear barrier of entry for pvp is extremely low. As soon as you hit 70 you can buy green gear on AH for ilevel 398. Then you can farm honor/bloody token for 408/411 gear. Finally you get your conquest gear (through either rated or unrated content) and your spark gear. The only thing you miss out in unrated is the vault. Once creation catalyst comes out in 2 weeks, you can get tier.
So you can get BiS in unrated without any issues. Just takes longer.
Yaaaa sorry about that I forgot alliance kinda got passive buffed an server numbers shifted.
I just play in Warmode and do my stuff, looting the box that drops here and there for 50-60 conquest, and turn in the warmode quest for 250ish conquest.
*Unless you’re Alliance.