Reality of facing a premade

WoW Classic Season of Discovery
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Of all the years I’ve now played classic it’s pretty rare that a pug wins vs a premade. Within the first 2 mins of clashing mid it becomes obvious the pug isn’t going to win. Players then begin defending their GY for a few mins and if the premade doesn’t push in to farm GY entirely most will either AFK in the BG and start spouting off phrases like “Just let them win, get this over with” and “You guys are garbage, I hate you all” etc etc OR AFK entirely out of bg due to the futility of possible victory.

So what’s the point of pitting a premade in discord vs an undergeared, zero coordination, class imbalanced team? You’re gratifying the 1 teams need to have an advantage vs literally everyone they ever face that’s not also in a premade. 99 out of a 100 times teams just let the premade win thus making the whole pvp experience a cheep afk grind for literally both teams.

Why are we enabling this sort of cycle? Why are we incentivizing peoples inevitable disinterest in the game?

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i agree the current state of pvp as a horde player is miserable. only premades of alliance in wsg and ashenvale we get stomped every time.

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this sorta thing is why cata had ranked BGs…as a thought

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You can complain about this kind of stuff AFTER blizz patches all of the Hordes glitchy little spots they use to either camp the flag or jump up to their graveyard from the ground level.

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You realise those sort of jumps exist on both sides of the map right? You should learn them, it may help you win.

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blizzard said years ago that they were never changing that

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seems an annoying vocal minority wants it this way
meanwhile the larger majority of casuals experience this a few times and never return to it - usually giving no indication why, because, why would they?

then the vocal minority of premade sweats come to cry on the forums about “why is pvp dead?”(spoiler-they killed pvp for themselves)

the reality is that sweaty premades need casual players more then casuals need them.
otherwise premades are just playing vs other premades, and in a sweat competition only the truly best players rise to the top, causing all the worse sweats to not get invited, which is ironic because then the bad sweats stop playing too.

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As someone that plays both sides, it’s really the same. Ashenvale comes down to stacking as many raids on the same layer, and both factions have premades in WSG.

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I’ve been in and/or lead many “premades” over the years. Why do they win so often? Well, it isn’t because they are always so much better geared. It also isn’t because they’ve worked together as a team many times before. More often than not, it is simply because the other team sees a “premade” and quits trying due to a defeatist attitude.

A hater’s going to hate, and a loser’s going to lose. It’s really that simple.