Real ID part 2

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Translation:

Crap. Everyone is disabling the feature or leaving. Please excuse us while we get with our lawyers to rewrite the code and the agreement so you can’t disable this over the top ‘feature’ which we created instead of working on Shadowlands.

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I wonder if this opts us out of Raider IO too?

Is this setting just added? I didn’t see it in my options when I looked.

Unlikely, I don’t know if you can opt out of it outside of making your profile private.

If you log into your account it is under Privacy settings, Account Privacy

Are you sure its part 2 ? and do you really think Blizzard cares :rofl:

Ahh, the one that is, “pending”.

Well they only relented last time when one of their CMs was doxxed with just their name, so I thought they learned it was dangerous. I really hope nothing bad happens this time and they just… decide not to.

The feature I mention which is the issue atm seems to be…

Share my game data with community developers:

Blizzard allows external developers to build applications and experiences for our players using game data. Unless you turn this share off, some information associated with your Blizzard account, such as gameplay data and your BattleTag, may be shared with external developers. Your name, email address, physical address, telephone number and other similar information will not be shared without your specific consent.


Basically from what my friends are telling me, despite them all disabling the above they have told me it is not being honored and the above reason is being given. If others are being done the same way, suggest they post and say as much. Blindly believing Blizzard will do the right thing is just asking for it.

Also be sure to review the Privacy section at least 1-2 times a month to see if it’s ‘default resetted’. It’s a common tactic industry and Blizzard will more than likely turn it back on several times as they update their EULA and ToS. “The player never objected” being the argument they’d make in a court if something went south.

Additionally (and this should go without saying) Read. Everything. Additionally, I expect we’ll have to “Agree”, several more times before the year is out. I know from having worked in Law for 20ish years, that the first draft is never are the final draft, especially when it’s complex legalese like this, using boiler-plate terms that can be adjusted. You would say “But I did!” and they would say “Yes. Under a previous and defunct version of the EULA / ToS.”

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It is enabled by default!

What idiot in Legal approved this for a California based corporation? lol

Well that’s majorly worrying. I don’t have a lot of faith in Blizzard, but are they really trying to get around getting our permission to sell our data?

It shouldn’t affect that because most people go by btag anyways.

I suspect that people at Blizzard may have been doing this already so they enabled this by default as a CYA.

Bye Raider IO

I don’t think Raider IO is included in that. They’ve been tracking through profile as far as I can tell.

Impossible to say yet what their aim is. I’ll let Blizzard’s actions speak for them. This could be completely innocuous and driven only to improve the Battle.net experience. Remember, Blizzard has other games besides Blizzard titles on the Battle.net app. I would not consider this overtly nefarious.

That being said, material changes to a game’s agreement, especially one that’s 16 years old and which players have massive amounts of time-investment in however, does; regardless of who owns what ultimately does feel like yet another forced covenant which takes material advantage of one party to the benefit of the other. In this case the benefit being to Blizzard Entertainment.

People will have to make their own decision on how they feel about such matters. But as a general rule of thumb, and as a basic suggestion for self improvement / education. I’d recommend everyone read up on Contract Law. Contract Law and Legal Methods by Daniel Markovits is an excellent read.

It’s rather frightening how much you can sign away in a EULA if you are not aware of the terms in advance. This is why I will say again “Read. Everything.” Be sure you know what you are agreeing to. Blindly hitting “I Agree” simply to get back to the game is always bad idea.


Edit:

As an additional update, I think the delay I mentioned above on the “Game Data and Profile Privacy”, section was due to data overload. I reloaded my account and it is now correctly disabled along with everything else. More than likely the servers were simply dealing with many, many, requests to disable it.

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Your referring to gameplay data then.

Exactly my point.
This article was updated 3 weeks ago and nothing appears to have changed anywhere that I have seen.

Yet.


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Blizzard should clarify if those “external developers” are contractors that Blizzard outsources parts of their games to or if those “external developers” also include any Tom, Dick, or Harriet developers (like addon developers) who aren’t paid by Blizzard.

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Well wouldn’t you know, it’s Blizzard Entertainment doing Blizzard Entertainment things. again. I guess that logo doesn’t mean much anymore.

See you all in 5 years where you need to take random drug tests to persistently play the game.

I’ve run this policy through the way back machine. This paragraph is not new. The oldest archive I can find of the privacy policy is from 30th September 2018.

It’s possibly even older as I suspect it was added in 2010 but never removed by the legal team. I have no way of confirming this as I’m at work where many gaming sites are blocked.

But no. It is not new

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