Ready for WoD 3.0?

Welcome to WoD 3.0 following the terrible WoD 2.0

Our little vacation break on the Broken isle as side content was really great, wish we could go back!

This time in WoD 3.0 we forget what happened in WoD 2.0 and leave things unfinished

In WoD 3.0 we bring back crafting so the players can feel meaningful at doing something that will be usless after the first major patch and out of price due to inflated gold price because of amazing tokens? Buy yourself a sharpening stone at the price of a raiding flask!

Our mini expension, PvP vendors without PvP stats will hopefully make some people be quiet finally! Our devs can’t balance this so we give up.

We promised unpruning! We deliver! Bunch of baseline and nerfed potencies and a bunch of spell and abilities that doesn’t fit rotation of certain specialization. No biggi, you will have a few more buttons and some genius will have an Icy Vein guide eventually up so players realize we did not really do any effort.

Roleplayers and RPG fan boys and girls! We finally got you covered. We heard you did not like the Garrison and Garnison. Boralus and Draz’dalor were not liked.

We bring you covenent! Make sure to pick your favorite armor and theme! You will be a terrible player and be behind everyone else but thats ok! Transmog is great, right?

We had such positive feedback about N’zoth visions. We bring it back to you, now in a mandatory content that will last the whole expension. We called it Thorgast and threw some random lore in it so you feel like you’re exploring pressured under a timer!

At the very popular demand of Reforging coming back. We decided to go against it and say no. That would defeat the purpose of personal loot and even more RNG.

Enjoy WoD 3.0!

We gave all we got!

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LMAO

Ok this made me laugh.

So you liked WoD.

Okay, Karen.

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I’m gonna sing the doom song now!

Ok big Bertha.

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Cataclysm 2.0 would also apply. As most of the work done is focused in old world leveling instead of real stuff.

Its almost like they were pruned for a reason… :thinking:

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Cataclysm was way better than it gets credit for. Systems and class design was much better than it is now, pretty much MoP class design without the extensive number of glyphs.

It gets flak for the wrong reasons, bad deathwing storyline, LFR, nerfing game difficulty, game difficulty being too high at release, forced specializations instead of open talent trees (which were still more flexible than post MoP design) etc.

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I think you’re right, in that the systems design hadn’t fallen apart yet.

Up until Cataclysm, both the systems design and content design for WoW were just assumed to be good. I remember waiting in line at midnight for WotLK, and I just knew it was going to be good (and it was). Then, Cataclysm showed us that the content design team was capable of hiccups.

MoP leaned a bit too hard into campy, giving us really over-the-top Pandaren monks for both factions. Some people were into it (I’m posting on a monk), and how the content design (questing / dungeons / story) felt was a mixed bag. The important part here is that we still just took systems design for granted. Of COURSE it was going to be good. And it was! Nowadays, people regularly just beg for their class to go back “to the way it was in MoP.”

That’s the thing, really. Cataclysm was where we were shown that you can’t rely on the content design to always come through and be great, and WoD was the first xpac where the systems team really let a lot of classes down. Cataclysm wasn’t bad if you’re just in it for the class mechanics / gameplay. The lore was lacking, the storylines, etc, which really put some people off. But the gameplay hadn’t slipped yet. In fact, it was still on its upward trajectory (IMO)! Ever since WoD, however, we’re all just a bunch of junkies ever-managing our own gameplay expectations, moving the system design team’s goalposts for them when they ignore and disappoint us over and over, and over again.

I think Legion surprised everyone, honestly. WoD had mostly crushed our spirit, and Legion’s content was great. We were enamored with World Quests, Mythic+ (prior to the dumb +10 affixes polluting the 2-9 casual tier), and how pretty our legendaries were. It took a bit to make us realize just how unfriendly those first two patches were for alts, and how we were basically shackled to our mains if we actually wanted to do the new content each patch when it was fresh.

7.3 snuck in World Scaling. We were so powerful that I think most people just didn’t notice. But man… what an awful, awful mistake. Now here we are in BfA: Gear is meaningless out in the overworld while questing, M+ with the +10 affixes in 2-9 is a slog that people aren’t willing to do anymore, PvPers hate how PvP rewards are done, and the players have never felt less heard.

They kept telling us to “just wait”, every time a new story beat was ruining a character we liked, or obliterating a capital city we enjoyed. “You just don’t know the whole story!” Cut to months later, and it is still dumb. The entire expansion’s war has been GoT-Season8 levels of character assassinations, and Shadowlands doesn’t appear to be righting the ship in any way. Covenants are tightly binding / conflating storyline and theming with what is effectively a talent row for your class. Many specs that have felt ignored for a long time seem to be in consensus on which things they think would make their class feel good again, and the developers are ignoring them.

Raiding is the last bastion for anyone other than us hopelessly addicted casuals that keep taking 2 month breaks out of frustration, but think “maybe if I just play a class I haven’t played before”, or “maybe if I just convince myself that M+ doesn’t exist anymore and I stop caring about gear”, or “maybe I’ll just get some xmog from old raids for the 1000th time.” Managing those expectations. Chasing the dragon.

Bleh, this rant has just depressed me. Good looking out, OP, your predictions for the next expansion feel dead-on, unfortunately. I’m sure we’ll all enjoy seeing our guildies of 15 years in-game again for that 2 week window at launch, and then go back to just sharing memes with them in our Discord and pining over the days when Voidform didn’t exist or Survival was ranged.

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Yeah, thanks for the addition. You pretty much understand it all! Very true!

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Heres my question to you. Been seeing you a good bit on the forums and all you do is whine and complain. If you’re not happy with the game or the company, why do you still play and support them?

If you’re not happy with the product, and you just complain without offering constructive feedback; leave.

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That’s none of your business.

And big difference between pointing our the wrongs and whining. Feedback doesn’t have to be always supportive.

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sounds like the op is salty and unsatisfied but will somehow continue to force herself to play a game she actively hates and bashes upon. I think shadowlands will be great and get stuff from proffesions yourself, i do so and i never use the AH.

Which I just dont understand why people are like that.

Shadowlands looks great, and I’m not haply with the content drought so I’ve been playing a ton of Conan Exiles lately beyond getting in Tuesday for my weekly stuff and for guild events.

It’s free week end for that game. Tell you friends to go play.

All I can say, this game as public stocks. That should be enough for you to find out.

Attention seeking, feeling the need to be relevant and important, i also heard playing the victim and victimizing yourself is the current trend as well.

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Yes and when I don’t enjoy a game, I dont force myself to keep playing. When I don’t like what a company is doing, I stop supporting the company.

You clearly dont like the game nor do you like the company producing it; so you’re wasting time and/or money to be so adamantly vocal about it when you could us that time and/or money to do something you actually enjoy.

But hey. You do you. Live your best life I guess.

Yup basically now I guess we just get the popcorn and wait for the boot lickers to come and simp for blizzard

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Not sure if im laughing because its funny or because its true.

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