Re-subbed 2 days ago and already regret it. WoW is so torn and it's awful

I have about 1 1/2 months left on my subscription, not sure if I will renew it. If I don’t, I won’t be back this next time as last time was a 9-year hiatus.

I hate this attitude.

“We never need to make retail good because classic exists”

Are we supposed to play classic for the next 100 years and never get bored?

Either give the SoD team enough resources to make a proper expansions worth of content OR make retail good again.

Retail is good though. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it automatically bad.

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WOW is the only game I ever played where people are consistently insistent that 2004 is miles and above 2024 even with the same mentality.

It’s kind of ridiculous.

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No the fact thait its bad makes it bad.

Retail is genuinely like a 3/10 game. The fact that you like a game doesnt make it good or well designed.

Classic is a 9/10 game…but Ive already played it to death.

Thats not true. Lots of other game franchises are like that.

New Halos are worse than the old ones. New CoDs are hit or miss. New Assassin creed games sucks. New maddens suck.

I mean that’s all opinion and that’s fine.

A lot of people enjoy retail how it is. It’s not for everyone and that’s fine. It doesn’t have to be.

Classic players are salty that SoD was just retail lite. They were expecting a true “classic+”

Also I think a lot of people are just tired of playing the same game for 20 years

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The exact problem with WoW is that it is trying to appeal to everybody.

Retail players won’t admit the game is bad and classic players won’t admit they are trying to relive high school.

Yea I think SoD made me realize what I and what other classic+ fans is not something the classic Dev team can ever give us.

Not unless they get more resources to work with.

Idk…TWW doubled down pretty hard on what DF was. Seems like they were happy with how dragonflight turned out and just ran with it. TWW is just more dragonflight with a different skin.

Probably store mount sales.

I mean fair. You should have seen dornogal after the brutosaur launched place was like Jurassic park. The community at large is fine with store mount sales. With I’ll agree with you on that point I would be completely fine if they removed the store but we both know that is never going to happen.

Again just saying this is an opinion. People that are actively playing TWW are enjoying the game.

No. Whether or not a game is bad is an objective thing.

Idk why you keep claiming it’s subjective when that’s not true.

In fact if you wanna go deep on epistemology subjectivity doesn’t technically exist. All things are 100% objective.

It’s not though. Tons of people are enjoying the game and like it. A small amount of people whining in the forums sayings it’s bad doesn’t make it bad.

What makes it bad? I’m genuinely curious on how “retail is bad because a few of us in GD claim it’s bad” makes it bad?

  1. they made leveling up a character ridiculous, to the point where what used to be a major achievement and part of the fundamental game is now 3 hours of timewalking numbness.

  2. the cash grab for things like $90 mounts should not exist in a subscription game. That stuff is for free to play games.

  3. they change classes and talents by too much, too fast, with what seems like random number generators.

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Atleast you gave some examples instead of just screaming the game is bad.

My personal experience in TWW, in terms of fun. The leveling and starter stuff was more fun for me than the end game. Leveling my Disc was the most fun I had, followed by the BDK.

The leveling stuff is head and shoulders above the end game. The end game is missing half the good dungeons so I don’t acknowledge it, we’ve got some form of derptarded dungeon rotation going on where instead of playing the new content they rehash Grim Batol 3 times.
It’s criminal to me. Oh also the BRD raid was 10x more fun than Palace. I don’t even wanna step foot back into Palace if im being honest.