Hey folks, I’m sure this has been asked 1,001 times but I did do a search beforehand and thought that the Rogue forum would be the best place to ask this.
I am having an immense hell of a time getting any restealth against …well…pretty much every class because every class is a warlock and dots you. Is the expectation that you can only RS once every two minutes or so?
Warriors…dot you
Paladins…dot you
Priests…dot you
If you are not going to let a class that is built around stealth use stealth which it depends on…like uhhh… what’s the point then?
It’s pretty frustrating to play this class as Blizzard refuses to fix the stealth bugs which pull you out of stealth randomly for no reason but this is pretty ridiculous.
So - yall got any tips for dealing with this? I would love for Blizzard to spend time actually playing the class and having a QA process. (I’m so sure they are using Sims or deprecated their QA process due to layoffs)
I don’t PVP myself but you forgot to mention all of the AOE and cleave and “smart targeting” a lot of abilities have now. Everyones got some massive thing going off so i’m surprised rogues stealth seems kinda useless unless you can catch someone in a far off spot but at that point you’re a solo player in PVP and can’t help with objectives cause you just get found.
Sure there is vanish and cloak of shadows but that’s a one and done kinda thing and you can get knocked out again easily.
Cloak of Shadows. Dwarf and DID racials. Use your cc to incapacitate them before they can dot you. Don’t unstealth in the middle of a group. Go for the lone stragglers trying to be inconspicuous around the outskirts. CC. Burst. Vanish. Next target. CC. Burst. Shadowmeld or if you have to be big and green, wait for the right opportunity. Pick your target wisely.
I remember it being the other way around. Many years ago, Subterfuge was added to give us a small reprieve from all the crap that broke stealth. Being able to stun hunters while they sat on flares was so fun.
Well with subterfuge window extended now BlizZard is scared of that for some reason. Revertng the immunity nerf to Vanish is a step in the right direction.
Nerfing vanish immunity was one of the most dumbest things these devs ever did.
In PvP Vanish is practically useless as a defensive and everyone is using it offensive only, because of all of those aoe crap and stealth breaking bugs that were never fixed - Yes i’m talking about Singular focus crap !
I feel like there needs to be some deep reflection and QA on Rouge as a class and Sub especially. They need to
A. Understand the rogue identity and LIVE it for a few sprints. Classes can easily take advantage of rogues and burst, counter them with out much difficulty or thought. A warrior literally just stuns a rogue and can 0-75% or more in one spear throw. (Arms) , 100-0 if Monk.
B. Dedicate sprints to bug fixes with Stealth. IT’S TIME. It’s been YEARS. It’s been damaging the experience the entire time.
C. Give rogues an updated tool kit to handle modern classes and their modern designs. We are working on fumes here and had literal win condition talents removed.
Reverting the immunity nerf to vanish helps. That way it doesn’t mean a guaranteed opener for a Rogue when having extended vanish immunity + subterguge. But it also means Rogues are able to use their tool kit as ALL THREE specs are balanced around stealth now. So that means vanish immunity needs to be bumped up a bit.
Yes, but once again youre excluding how its a worse way of managing stealth than Shadow Dance previously was. You supported that. Your opinion on this matter is irrelevant. It wouldnt be an issue if Shadow Dance were still in the class tree.
