RDF (LFG Tool)

Bloom is super community focused and wants to make sure the important things like new store mounts and boost are included but not things that actually were in wrath.

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it had one dip before RDF and after RDF it was even or up… lol sooo it was not going down… *higher bar on chart mean more, lower bars mean less.

so can we say that last Wrath bar is up or down hmmmm does that sounds like going down to you? (higher means more just a hint).

Right, so when you say,

the answer is yes, they were. The numbers were going down in Wrath, which makes Beaupeep right. I’m glad you’ve conceded this point.

Again, this is a reading comprehension issue on your part. The statement you replied to didn’t mention LFD at all, so you mentioning it is irrelevant here. All Beaupeep said was this:

And it’s demonstrably proven true by the graph YOU yourself linked.

Sadly one troll and his alts will just argue ad astra, constantly contradicting themselves. Keep voicing your opinion though, blizzard needs to realize where the money is.

If the playerbase plummets there won’t be anyone for people like bloom to scam gold off of for GDKP runs.

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going down and it ended up higher wow you really do not know how charts work, but thinks again since as our last wonderful talk I told you I can’t post outside links yet, could not do it without you… :+1:

*things going down usually end up higher in your world?

I mean providing people with cross server queued dungeon experiences effectively makes the rest of the party into AIs solely there to help me gear the gear I need.

Having a group on your server means you kind of need to care to some extent that they are also getting what they need.

Its still not hard to get groups now, my 70 paladin geared in mostly greens healed normal MGT after about 5 mins of looking for a team, I oomed on bad pulls and we wiped twice (poor target focus).

We had a great time from what I can tell (and I got the epic healer ring and a gem for it from the quest).

I guess it all depends on what you consider dungeons are for, if they are just loot pinatas to get you geared for raids RDF is good. If they are part of the experience like raids then RDF is bad.

Its like in retail there is only really 3 pieces of content Raid, M+ and rated pvp all of which use manual grouping, everything before that is your chorelist to be ready for the real content.

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Here you go again, admitting that subs went down before Cata, which is all Beaupeep was saying. Glad we got that cleared up for you.

Strawman argument.

Both I and Blizzard know that some people want RDF.

However I am one of the voices who has definitely been all for it’s removal, and I’m happy to see things play out with it gone.

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umm no before Cata it was up, you can’t see the chart you posted odd?

*sorry Oh Great hero of RDF…

If you can’t see the drop in subs from Wrath Q1 2009 to Wrath Q2 2009, which is WoW’s first ever drop in subs, then you may want to consider learning how to read graphs.

They are valuable tools in discussions and statistics integration, when used correctly. When used incorrectly, which is what you’re doing currently, they only weaken your argument. I suspect that could be why Blizzard has stood their ground on the removal of LFD.

but it went up with RDF this is about RDF before Cata so up up up, you helped proved RDF saved wrath, again great job. Great hero of RDF

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This is not relevant to the statement you replied to but I can address this point as well.

Causation =/= correlation. Just because subs increased after the implementation of LFD does not mean that LFD is the reason for the increaes. With your fallacious logic, we could also say that the reason subs decreased after the implementation of LFD (which they did from a timeline perspective) was because of LFD alone.

You can argue both positions with that logic because it’s fallacious and nonproductive, which is why Blizzard isn’t listening to it. But hey, if that’s the argument you want to go with, best of luck.

The ironic part is RDF was removed and they’ve stood their ground on removing it – even going as far as to put the rewards from RDF achievements elsewhere in the game. I guess that makes me the hero of nothing, sadly.

I was part of that uptick after 3.3. It made me resub, and a few people I knew.

By the way, obviously Bloom is a troll. He’s literally arguing subs were going down before lfd, and then after they went back up and eventually hit the all-time high. And also arguing that lfd caused subs to drop.

:grin:

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Oh I see you don’t know how charts work look at the first Wrath bar and then look at the last is the last bar higher or lower than the first bar… if higher it went up, if lower it went down, the middle is there but not really as important *well the part where your heroic’s brought to our attention the flux but RDF saved that so, as charts go Wrath sub’s went up from where it started, Great hero of RDF hope this helps.

but he’s a helpful toll :slight_smile: that chart was useful since I can’t post it.

They went back up because of anew expansion…WOD has like one of the highest sub inflations in the game, are you intending to imply that means it was the best expansion?

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Wrath ended with the highest sub count WoW has ever had.

And if there was a small dip in the middle it recovered those and more. The first major drop that WoW did not recover from was early into Cata. Almost like LFD was not the issue but rather other changes in Cata.

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The trolls are moving faster than a pulsar trying to spin this ridiculous and irrelevant and incorrect narrative that the facts disprove.

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Which is the only point relevant to the conversation you’re interjecting in, btw. Thank you.

Seems like there are Classic Era servers for people who want a classic experience.

Likewise there should be Wrath servers for people who want a Wrath experience.

No?

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