Fact is it was asked for. The claim is no one asked for it. Which is wrong.
Fact is at least one person did. This is irrefutable.
It was an unpopular suggestion but non the less asked for.
You have only tanked your credibility by doubling down on a absolute that is without question wrong.
No no please find me the posts asking for a heroic+ that dropped naxx 10 gear.
As mentioned scottyjays channel you can go find the exact vid. There is also many posts accross the beta fourms that mention it. Again using the wording relevent gear which catch up gear is relevent. Which the vid in question usong uldar gear as a example which is in fact even more than naxx gear.
Fact is what we are getting was suggested quite often accross the beta fourm nearly every other day something similar poped up asking for heroics to be kept relevent and mythic plus mentioned often as a way to do that for catch up gear some even going as far as asking for it to be used as a alt progression path like retail.
I spent a fair bit of time saying no we don’t want that in many of these threads.
Well then I’m sure you can link it with the exact time stamp of him asking for heroic+ dungeons that dropped naxx 10 gear.
A mentioned you are welcome to go and find it. I’m not going to go by all his vids and find a exact time stamp since you don’t want to educate yourself. You are the one making the claim of “no one”. The burden of proof falls on the one making the original claim. Once you have proven that no one has ever made that statment with evidence the burden of proof shifts to me to disprove it. I’ll wait for you to prove your statment as you are making the org claim. Or to be exact supporting the ops original claim.
I have told you exactly where to find quite a number of examples of posts and evidence disproving your claim. As such you proving your original claim is near impossible. As it stands I have already provided much clearer evidence than your unsupported in any way claim of no one.
It will destroy Heroics, no one will do them. Heroic + will be full of “gate keeping” and arrogant people.
Just make regular Heroics harder like they should be in the first place. Adjust the loot for each new patch.
I am totally confused you are the only one that even mentioned a dead game, were you answering yourself?
I had to go back and check, thought I was losing it.
It will be like when they introduced Mythics, at first it will be painful getting a group so you use guild, then after a while it will be like a normal heroic, besides they will add RDF to heroics and keep that off, probably the " We listened to your feedback and have decided to add LFD to the game but we will keep Heroic+ off as we know it will require a strong group for successful completion". or something like that
I think he believes the game would be dead if RDF was in it… which is delusional thinking.
And there is the problem: The ones who are asking for things like Heroic+ are STREAMERS, people who have thousands to millions of simps who will run with them or carry them at a moment’s notice, so they get to do top-tier content till they run out of a challenge, then demand more.
Since these people have a large reach to the community, Blizzard thinks that they ARE THE COMMUNITY. But they actually represent about 5% to 10% of the overall playerbase, and their simps will parrot their talking points to death (I could bet a majority of the Anti-RDF crowd are AsmonGold simps) instead of actually stepping back and hearing what the majority of the actual community are crying out for.
Heroic+ brings with it the current Mythic+ MENTALITY, it doesn’t matter what the actual content is, its the mentality that people are opposed to. Meanwhile, you have RDF people begging for something that will keep the expansion going long-term, make it alt friendly, and won’t remove the gatekeepers from doing their thing with Heroic+/Raids.
Why should people quit arguing? People want the feature and it should be there. It is not a community killer like everyone claims. Wow’s player base is trash and always has been. Accept that we are the problem, not RDF.
Okay got it, there is in fact not this fictitious video you claim exists.
Why would my guild do heroic+ in the first place? Or anyone who has been playing since launch for that matter. We’ll already be in 25 man gear.
You may be surprised to know there is still people levelling, its not all rush to max and raid, there is some people that don’t want to raid at all, and others that don’t 25man, you just got to think about other people once in a while.
And people are getting neither. Again heroic+ is the name that the playerbase gave what Blizzard is going to introduce. A slightly harder version of heroics that have raid gear in it that isnt going to be a higher ilvl than what heroics already give.
So no, no one asked for “heroic+” people wanted harder heroics NOW. Its an attempt at a catch up that RDF could provide to some extent while not killing 10m naxx outright.
RDF AND heroic+
My vote goes for no rdf and no heroic+.
Your vote is meaningless
As is yours.
No one wants to socialize regardless. It isn’t a “force people to socialize like the good 'ol days” thing… it is how society is now.
Add RDF, and those who don’t want to use it can continue using LFG tool.