While I am normally just content in the #nochanges camp for vanilla wow, I was curious on what people’s thoughts were on this, or if they have other ideas to iterate.
What if instead of all this brainstorming of tweaks or changing the ranking system, they just put RBGs into vanilla for rank gear? Keep the ranks but spread them out based on rating?
I always hear a lot of complaints about the ranking system because it rewards unemployment instead of skill a lot of the time.
Now, putting more development into ranking this way would definitely hurt world pvp, which I am an avid fan of, but maybe even some iteration on world pvp could be good as well?
Anyhow, just shower thoughts because I am bored waiting on FRESH lol. Being self-employed I have a lot of free time so I don’t have a big bias either way myself.
This is strictly for friendly discussion and creative ideas. No motive pushing. No agendas. I am too stressed with real life to deal with the crazies here today 
In light of that we’re on 1.12 and that all of the HWL that got their title after cross realm should get an asterisk (sp) next to their title, i wouldn’t mind this.
Nah. WoW was not designed for ranked PvP. For better or worse, the vanilla PvP system is the only one that works in WoW.
The best way to make PvP more accessible to working adults would be to remove the ability to de-rank. So if you get rank 8, then stop playing for a month, you’ll still be rank 8 when you come back.
In SoM, I reached rank 10 pretty early on, but then I went out of town for 2 weeks during the Christmas / New Years holidays. I would have de-ranked down to 8 or so. Rather than grind back up from 8, I just ended my ranking journey then and there. But I probably would have pushed for higher ranks later in the season if I didn’t lose my progress.
If we continue to the next expansion in Classic then we’ll have RBGs.
Whether they belong in something like Vanilla, or if a fresh WoW Classic would be more popular than another SoM (with or without RBGs, which might be the place to experiment with such a thing), I don’t know.
I know some people say they would like that change, but it would be interesting to see how it would actually impact ranking.
Yeah, the big issue I would see is world pvp and normal BGs taking a large hit.
I would like to see some sort of “personal rating” into ranking myself, I just have no clue what the best avenue could be for that.
During WoW Classic, I ranked to R10, and realized that was about as far as I had the time to go.
If every match had been a super sweaty pre-made vs pre-made, I’m not sure if casuals with jobs and family like me would even be able to get that far.
Who knows though? It’s sometimes difficult to predict how such a change would actually impact the game.
It also depends on how it’s implemented. The way I see it, currently in WoW Classic all BGs are RBGs. If you added RBGs, you’d effectively just be adding BGs that don’t give any ranking, but perhaps there would be some middle ground?
How were you envisioning rated and non-rated battlegrounds working in WoW Classic?
Only way I could ever see it working properly would to be massive overhauls which I could never see anyone wanting or blizzard willing to do.
But in my weird mind palace of thought that probably wouldn’t work, I have an amalgmation of various games I have played over the years.
Idea 1 (very basic):
Rank 1-10: blue pvp gear - maybe make this a bit easier to get (akin to SOM)
- simply put in some time and get this as “starter gear”
Rank 11-14: Require some type of “personal rating” from an RBG or other system of some sort.
Idea 2;
While many pvpers would probably hate this other idea, maybe make the rank 13 and 14 gear not solely pvp gear but “game mastery” gear. Require BWL to be cleared at a certain speed, acquire a certain amount of HKs, kill world bosses, exalted with these set reputations, etc.
I really enjoyed how Guild Wars 2 handled there legendaries as it had you touching ALL aspects of the game to attain the best weapon.
I never played it, but I appreciate the idea. For sure some people really hate the idea that you have to do PVE content for BiS PvP gear and vice versa. WoD did an interesting job of somewhat equalizing gear in Arenas…
Anyway, interesting ideas! As with any changes, some people may love them and some may hate them. Maybe we’ll see something for SoM 2 though!
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Whatever they do to ranking if they ever changed it has to remain congruent with whatever model they’re gonna use for the som
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