Ranked solo shuffle should not replace 3s

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@Manfighting-westfall

There is nothing about WoW arenas that makes them unsuitable for SoloQ.

i’m not a moba expert but aren’t the roles in most popular mobas better split in terms of population than wow’s 50 dps per 1 healer problem? i don’t think your quoted comment here was targeting this aspect of it as much as the gameplay itself, to be clear, but i have to think that long-term logistics are a relevant question. we are talking about the company that staked role queue through overwatch’s heart

@Manfighting-westfall

As for the rest, so long as rewards are spec-based it doesn’t matter really that the top of the central ladder will be filled with demon hunters.

i was just whining about this in another thread to an extent, but it’s interesting here too: if the top of the ladder is filled with good demon hunters, then the part of the ladder below that, where you’ll find the best players of more inconsistent specs that crumble with poor teamwork, might be filled with the bad demon hunters who don’t utilize teamwork. is that problem realistically self-solving?

@Manfighting-westfall

The reason I worry about it is because a lot of people on this board seem to have a very out-of-touch understanding of SoloQ, and a lot of the rhetoric feels very similar to PvE players calling PvP as a whole a mini-game. Like, I know what’s likely about to happen over the course of this expansion, but they seem to be highly incredulous. I fear they will perceive it as a bug that needs to be forcibly rectified rather than… reality, that they need to accept as the new norm

@Remi-tichondrius

it’s hard to separate two completely different game modes the way people have not been able to acknowledge 2v2 the last idk decade outside of the consistently best maybe 5 2v2 players

there’s examples of wws and dhs that consistent perform pretty well in 2v2 and poorly in 3v3 that get demeaned pretty widely as “sweaty meme 2’s players”
i don’t see shuffle not earning that same level of toxicity should someone really just excel there but fail in the bracket blizzard deems to be the one worth the highest rewards

i assume this is what was meant by the law of large numbers but the crucial bit here as far as i can see is just whether RSS explodes and 3v3 becomes a fossil over the course of DF and beyond.

pve gets to spit on pvp because it’s much bigger and it gets more dev attention. breaking down this cause and effect has always been weird because it’s mathematically impossible that designing a new playpen and forcibly retiring the old ones all the time is a better return on blizzard’s investment than an equally popular pvp mode would be, and from the outside we’ve spent a decade at least just guessing at why they keep wasting all this money. but they do, and so pve is bigger than pvp, and so people who do 1 and not 2 are infinitely more common than the reverse in terms of pure numbers, and so scorn results.

manfighting seems near certain that this will not be mirrored in the popularity of RSS vs premade arena-my opinion of the company taking care of the new baby is more cynical than that, but i’m eager to be proven wrong.