I am a little frustrated with the ranged weapons situation. Maybe its just me, but I cant seem to get the rng gods to drop anything over 400 for me in M+ (1500+io). Its not like I havnt been trying. I have been really discouraged lately and havnt done many in the last 2 - 3 weeks, but before that, i was running the crap out of them. Now, how about raiding you ask? I have done my share and am 4/9 mythic, but i dont have any chances at a weapon untill the 5th boss! It seems that every other class in the game has had multiple drops where they can even share loot with other raiders since they use the same weapons… but not hunters. Not only are we the only range class in the game that uses a range weapon, but only two of our 3 specs have them on loot table! I think its bad enough that only shamans and hunters can share loot, and blizz will most likely introduce yet another leather class where they can share drops of loot, but for weapons, hunters are alone on a little island with zero ships on the horizon. With all this knowledge, why would blizzard stash the only chance at a weapon for range hunters so deep in a raid? Damn 400ilvl weapon with zero hope for anything better in the near future, yet more weapons for every other class in easy reach…
I concur. Mor bows/guns/crossbows! Better skins!
since we’re literally the only class that uses ranged weapons, I wouldn’t even mind some long convoluted quest/instanced type thing to help acquire a better bow/gun/crossbow, after you crossed some arbitrary measuring line they make up.
At least it would be something to work towards, instead of rolling the dice one more time.
I am on the same page. I am just casual and I PuG everything. Most PuG raids I joined on Heroic BoD ends on the 4th boss. Those PuG Raids who clears/farms Heroic BoD weekly wont invite me coz they wont see my profile or raider io that I have Boss kills after 4th boss. How can I have a competitive DPS when the Gear I need is beyond the 4th boss? All my slots are ilevel 400+ except my range weapon which drops beyond the 4th boss.
Regular PuGs on BFA have slower learning curve than Legion. I’ve been stucked on the 4th boss for 4 to 5 weeks now. Been carrying them for awhile but I cant on the 5th boss.
Guess I’m in the minority here. To me since us Hunter are the only class that use a range weapon I think it smart on Blizzard part to have it drop on the 5th and 7th boss of BoD.
Lets say a Hunter range weapon dropped for the 1st and 3rd boss in BoD; and there are only one or two hunter in a given raid group. After those hunters get their weapon any future raid farm will be useless if those weapon drop again; it not like those range weapon can be use by a Hunter offspec or any other class.
There are multiple Mythic+ that has gun/bow/crossbows.
Since your weapon is 390, you should run M+10 on Atal’Dazar, Freehold, King’s Rest, Temple of Sethraliss, Motherload, or Tol Dagor. All of those dungeons can drop a ilv400 weapon at M+10, and with your gear that should be very easy.
It’s past ilv 400 that we struggle to find a good weapon.
It took me something like 2 months to get an upgrade for my 385 weapon, and that was running my 10 weekly, running heroic BoD weekly (though generally only through Rasta) and coining Conclave weekly (and running with another hunter that already had a 400 weapon, but also didn’t see the Conclave bow drop during that time), and about half of those weeks, running at least one 10 that could drop a weapon and coining that as well.
Eventually I got a 410 Deadshot Handcannon from doing the warfront when it came around, so that finally settled that, but man did it take a while. And I’m probably stuck on that Handcannon for the foreseeable future, since I’ve main-swapped to my hunter but my guild is extending lockout now to work on Stormwall, so I’ve got one shot to get a mythic raid weapon when we kill Stormwall and then that’s it until we down Jaina.
Took forever to get a 400 ilvl one, now I have simply given up on trying anymore. I get 415+ trash that gets the shred but never once have I got a gun.
There is a BiS 2 hander for a few classes that drops off the 1st boss in BoD. Raiders in my guild have gotten it multiple times, so much so that they give them away. These folks still push progression with us. Im not sure i agree with your comment.
You are talking about a raid progression. Of course any raider will continue to farm and progression a raid content regardless of if they need the loots drop or not.
My comment was about having a BiS range weapon dropped on the first (easy) boss. The reason I don’t want it to drop on the beginning bosses is a range weapon can only be use by a HUNTER.
Your BiS 2 hander on the first boss prove my point. That BiS 2 hander can be use by multiple class and spec and thus will be obsolete much longer than a range weapon.
Of course as the raid bosses become farm these weapon will all become obsolete that just the nature of the any raid.
I would suggest making the range weapon become more available to other class and spec; this suggestion should goes to the DH’s warglaive as well.
Fantastic to hear Hunters are being screwed in raiding, I was worried Blizzard were only shafting us in PvP. This must be their idea of Hunter game balance!
You are correct. It’s much easier to get Range Weapon upgrade from Mythic + than from a Raid.
I have 1 chance in a week from the raid… on Heroic Conclave as PuGs that can get passed the 5th boss are hard to find. Unlike on Mythic +, I can have multiple attempts to get a range weapon.
I made 2x attempts on +9 last week and 2x attempts this week, I got ilevel 395 weapon from ilevel 390. It looks promising. I am doing Mythic difficulty where I could carry people. On Mythic +9, I can but on Mythic +10, I am not sure that I could carry people with my current gear. If I could find a PuG group that would carry me, great. But more likely, I wont find one.
I need another 1725 titan residuum to get another ilevel 415 gear. By then, I should be welcomed for Mythic +10. I can get ilevel 407 now if I wear that ilevel 415 Alchemy trinket but its DPS impact is inferior to my ilevel 395 trinket.
Edit: Blizz changed the loot level. I am not sure if it’s just me. Daily Emissary quest rewards ilevel 400 gear on me right now. Just tickle it with Warforge or Titanforge, I might get something decent.
Looking at your IO profile, if you successfully complete +9 on Temple, Atal, and Siege, you’ll be at over 900.
People will let you in for +10s at 900 if you keep applying for it. I raised mine from 900 to 1200 in one week a couple of weeks ago, all from pugs.
You guys are commenting about M+ being a better way to farm a range weapon. I agree 100%, so i have been plugging away. Im sitting at over 1600io and have run the crap out of M+. My point stands, poor RNG and limited access to drops via “no other class has range weapon on loot table” has banished me to ilvl 400 hell. Once again, i have run with other classes and witnessed as one player passes amazing weapons to another player because they share loot tables. Blizzard needs to increase drop rates/titanforging for range weapons to accommodate the lack of drop chances. It should totally weigh in on their decision making when it comes to this.
Basically the RNG God kick your a$$.
I was lucky enough that my guild first Mekkatorque killed dropped the gun, but my other hunter in the raid took over 3 months before it drop for him.
I don’t like your idea for Blizzard to just increasing the drop rate on a range weapon since it will make other class complain.
I think if Blizzard can introduce to mythic dungeon coin currency system where you can buy the dungeon loots with that currency. They have to put a limit on how much you can farm the currency per week so it cannot be exploited; let say it mat take a month to farm enough currency for an item. This way after months of bad RNG you can have enough of the currency to buy the specific loots you want per dungeon.