The very people who play these the most are being left out of the equation. Random BG’s should be designed around the people who do the most random BGs.
WoD gearing worked amazing for this without taking away from PVE or rated PVP. In fact, it made both PVE and rated PVP better, because the barrier to entry into PVP for anyone was really low, and earning gear happened so fast that people were on a relatively level playing field very quickly. Rated players still had a gear advantage because they earned it faster, and there was still gearing progression.
The most recent changes actually moved further away from this system and closer to the systems that Blizzard themselves said did not work (rating gating).
Make random BG’s better for those of us who play the most random BGs.
EDIT: How does removing conquest from unrated play make the game better for anyone?
EDIT2: Conquest can be earned in unrated, great change. Now, about those rating requirements…
I understand people being frustrated that they get 0 progression toward their weekly vault by doing just random bgs but asking for them to revert to wod at this point in development really seems like a fruitless effort.
If you are wanting change to anything s1 or even s2 then I think you are better off pushing for rated honor to be rewarded for wins like how conquest has done in the past or some other micro change that can easily be implemented.
Anyone, period. That’s all random BGs have ever been. A queue to join a random BG and play however you want. It is not for any particular player, it is for everyone. To that end, this is still the case in Shadowlands.
Encourage them to do rated. Despite the complaints on the forum it seems to be a highly favorable change given all the praise for it on Reddit, Youtube videos, and Twitter. The “majority”, as people here seem to put it, are being silenced by praise.
At this point we’re not 100% certain that conquest is removed, are we? Conquest was removed entirely from the beta, not just random BGs. It may be that you still earn conquest from randoms once the season starts.
Really though, there’s not even a point in conquest from random bgs. 1/7 conquest=190, 7/7 honor=197. The folks who refuse to do rated would actually be gimping themselves if they refuse to get to 1400. Blizz is doing them a favor lol!
How did that work for all the PVE to PVP?
Did all the PVP players enjoy that experience? Doing content you don’t want to do in order to be viable in content you do want to do?
They’re praising the overhaul to the PvP gearing system.
For a while, you might be right. Doing rated to get into higher PvP brackets would almost certainly cap your weekly conquest. But once you’ve reached a bracket you’re comfortable with then you could skip rated entirely and cap conquest in randoms.
“folks who don’t do higher content don’t get higher gear”
Good. Not sure why you’d want to cater to people who outright refuse to do content. I understand not liking the content but too bad, that’s the game. Stop expecting good rewards for bottom-of-the-barrel content.
PvE isn’t PvP. Pick another analogy or comparison.
Don’t know if there’s much specific praise for that. People are praising overhaul in general, particularly that they can gear entirely through PvP now.
