The other day I was unexpectedly informed that my requested core roster spot for Wrath was being downgraded to bench. I was told this had nothing to do with my performance but 100% for social reasons because the returning players were “friends.” I have just been in the guild for Phase 4 and Phase 5 but in that time I’ve spec swapped for progression and still ended up the top parsing damage by the end (while still doing mechanics). My roster pick for Wrath was holy paladin when there was limited interest in the spec compared to others. Do I become the a-hole if I don’t want to raid with them anymore at the end of TBC? I still signed up for next week, but clarified that it’s only if they needed me. Feels like I earned that spot for Wrath, or does the fact it’s a new expansion wipe that away?
rejoice brother! No RDF means you will be a socialite in wrath. Paris Hilton got nothing on you!
I don’t think that excuses them from what they’re doing because it’s a new expansion. You have been waiting and the other people quit friends or not. I would find a guild that appreciates you plus you’re going to be healing in wrath so you will have a lot of choices to be honest. Don’t settle find a group that lets you actually play during Wrath.
It’s latterly because of social reasons. But let me ask you this, how big is the guild, how many raid teams do you have. If the guild is relatively big, like two raid teams of 25, I don’t see why the guild can’t really swap people in between raid lock outs.
I remember you making tons of troll threads and they are still there on Google even with the hidden history and you also have tons of likes on posts from one of our most known forum trolls.
So I’m going to reply to this more matter-of-factly.
If they benched you they probably expect that you may leave, so if you want to not go to that raid and just gquit and find another guild that’s fine.
Sounds like it’s time for a new guild.
The guild is making the right decision and doing whats best for the team
Sounds like you need to find yourself a new guild. You seem to value contribution, they seem to value nostalgic social connections. If you’ve been doing all this and they are going to bench you, they aren’t your home for wrath. Find a new place to raid, and when their friends leave again their roster will be worse for it.
Sounds like you know your worth but dont want to make the hard call. I see 3 options to your problem.
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Accept it. If this is the guild for you and you like who you play with no big deal.
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Leave. There are guilds out there you can find a new one.
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Troll. You can be on for the next raid and just not accept invites. Say your on the bench. Join disc and just be super social especially during boss fights. Start telling them how your weeks going or that funny story from 5 years ago ect.
There’s always two sides to every story this post is on Reddit wowclassic sub if you want to know more about it. Op is a liar and a drama queen.
The same thing was posted on Reddit a few hours ago but nice try:
(1) Raiding guild benching me in Wrath for returning quitters : classicwow (reddit.com)
Note: While technically the guy may be posting in both places here is a history post with another copy paste from Reddit (check reply #4)
My friend quit TBC after gearing out his fresh 70 in GDKPs - WoW Classic / Burning Crusade Classic Discussion - World of Warcraft Forums (blizzard.com)
Reply on another thread, look familiar?
Props to those trying to help this guy more. There’s nothing wrong with that. I normally would.
That’s cap. Guilds benching their current players for Wrath is because they are trying to get rid of all the deadweight who exposed themselves throughout TBC.
They are lying to you and you’re most likely getting benched/gkicked due to ur performance.
I have and never will raid in a guild that has a bench. It’s a weird concept to expect someone to show up every week in hopes to take someone’s spot in the event they’re absent
Yep. Guilds with a bench are the biggest redflag, especially if said bench has a lot of players in it. Try to avoid guilds who have a bench in the future.
My guild has 25 solid players and we don’t run a bench and never will, a guild with a bench is scared of people quitting due to their bad performance, if ur guild is good enough then you don’t need one.
Running with a bench is pretty standard. Expecting 25 people to show up every week and have no problems is not realistic. You’ve at least got to have casuals in the guild to fill or you run into problems. Sometimes people want to sit the night for whatever reason and it’s no big deal.
Speaking as someone who has successfully helped to run guilds that have raided every week for years.
Not that what was described in the OP is a healthy bench. The guilds reply on the Reddit thread was interesting.
If you’re the type who wants to wait 45 mins to raid because one of the raiders is stuck in traffic or not have a raider show who had to drop out because their kid got really sick then by all means go for a guild with a roster of exactly 25 “so that you can raid every week”.
A bench is good because that means you have more than 25 raiders and therefore likely never have a roster issue / no raid at all. Our team has 32 raiders and we rotate the bench and it works just fine.
A bench isnt a red flag at all, some of theories you guys have are nutty
So when someone can’t show up you guys just call the raid for that week?
Kinda silly to not have a bench.
And they wonder why casual guilds die
My advice quit. This is clique behavior. They will use you when they need to and toss you aside otherwise.
No one is the a-hole here. They made their choice, and it is time for you to make your own. Even if you decide to drop their guild right now to secure a spot elsewhere… which you should do.