(Last Updated: 6/9/2014)Intent: This is not a progression thread. This is a guild times and particulars thread. A raid time listing thread for the benefit of guilds, raiders, and PUG raid leaders. A raider awareness quick reference thread. A RL and GDKP registration thread. It is essentially an every-thing-but-progression-quick-reference aide.
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If you have additional questions about the reason for this thread or why to participate in it, or other common questions these have received, please see the Q&A section specifically.
-----=====TABLE OF CONTENTS=====-----1...……………. Update date, Disclaimer, Contents
2...……………. Raid Time Quick Reference
3...……………. Progression Link, Raiding Sites, Weekly GDKP and PUG Raids
4...……………. Alliance Guilds A-K
5...……………. Alliance Guilds L-Z
6………………. Horde Guilds A-K
7………………. Horde Guilds L-Z
8………………. Guide Type Key
9...……………. Loot Type Key
10...……………. How To Add Your Guild
11……………… GDKP & PUG RL Submission Formats
12……………… Q&A
13...………….. Roll Call, 'About Korgath' (
Answers for Transfers)
-----=====RESOURCE NETWORK=====-----Hyjal:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1127157975Illidan:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2369880511Korgath:
Malygos:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1658713939Medivh:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1756035907Disclaimer: This thread is intended to be an ongoing resource to current and future raiders and raid guilds. Initial information was collected from that provided by guilds on their respective websites or on wowprogress. If your guild is not listed and wish it to be, please see the below qualifications and follow the submission procedure if you qualify. It is the intention of the thread provider to keep only current and up to date information to better serve those who would use this resource. It is the responsibility of each guild to provide current and accurate information. Additionally, this resource is for established and ongoing guilds to list their information. *Once your guild has raided on the same set schedule for 3 weeks, it qualifies to be listed. Until then, please do not submit an entry.
Please Note: For the sake of brevity in the formatting, specific terms are used, and these terms are defined
here specifically in the thread to convey their meaning
in relation to this thread's presentation only. As such, please read the sections in full to interpret their meaning and proper usage here in order to ensure they most accurately reflect your guild, or the type of guild you are searching for.
-----=====GUILD TYPE KEY=====-----
Q: What Kind of Raid Type is my guild?
If you are wondering about this question and what to put, consider the following question:
"What kind of player do you identify yourself with and wish to attract to your guild?"
TYPE DEFINITIONS:
Hardcore guilds seek not to be just the best on a server, but place in the top percentile globally. They seek world firsts, and server firsts are a given. These guilds have a robust and extensive raid schedule to say the least. Hardcore guilds clear all current normal mode content in less then 30 days of its implementation. That means a hefty raid schedule (5-7 days a week raiding on average). They have the strictest of performance and attendance requirements, and an intense admittance policy. These are typically stressful guilds, but not always. Maybe one carrot a month, the rest is all verbal stick.
Serious guilds are like hardcores, but with a slightly looser raid schedule, and generally a slightly more relaxed atmosphere outside of raiding. While the raids themselves are still very 'serious' in tone and nature, there is less overall intensity compared to hardcore. They generally seek to be the first on server, but beyond that their sphere of concern falls short. Typically they can be even stricter then hardcore guilds on attendance because of their fewer raid days, but not necessarily. More stick then carrot here.
Dedicated guilds usually have a schedule similar to serious guilds, that is more relaxed, but still enforce attendance but aren't extremely strict about it (guilds where you give advanced noticed you can't make it, and they don't gkick you for not being there, or where they understand RL happens, that kinda vibe). Dedicated guild members research their classes as well and generally try and perform really well in raids, but usually do so with a more relaxed atmosphere for the most part. These are the guilds most people like being in, but typically suffer from attendance problems (and well guild identity problems on what kind of guild they are) as they continually try and balance between the carrot and the stick.
Casual guilds ask people to show up, but don't particularly enforce attendance. They have a very loose raid schedule, that is more like a series of raiding guidelines for times to get together. These guilds are very easy to get in to and normally do not have an application or screening process beyond "hey I know him/her, they're cool". Lots of carrots here, very very few sticks.
Relaxed guilds pretty much just raid whenever people are on and don't normally have a set schedule. They don't care what you come as, or how bad you are usually, they care more about the social interactions that transpire both during and after raids - think social guild that raids. No sticks, all carrots.
Q: What do I do if my guild can't be clearly defined by one of these labels?
What if it is a mix of two?
If you find your guild is more like the combination of 2 definitions, you can establish it as such. For example, if you are somewhere between Serious and Dedicated, call it that "Serious/Dedicated". If you are a Casual guild, but when you raid you are very serious, then identify yourselves as "Casual/Serious". To help define what you mean by your combination, when you submit your guild entry, provide a definition to your newly defined guild type. This way players who see your mix and aren't exactly sure what you mean by it, can scroll down to your individual entry and learn first hand.
PLEASE NOTE: Raid Size must also be indicated. With the changes to raiding via Cataclysm it is now essential to indicate if you are a 10 man raid guild, or a 25 man raid guild. What ever the majority of your Guild Raids are during the week, 10 or 25s, is effectively what you are. Multiple 10 man raids makes you a 10 man raid guild. If the majority of your guild's raid weekly raid schedule changes to 25s, please update your information here accordingly.
GAME Periods and EXPANSION RELEASE DATES:
Classic - Nov 2004
Burning Crusade (BC) - Jan 2007
Wrath of the Lich King (WotLK) - Nov 2008
Cataclysm (Cata) - Dec 2010
Mists of Pandaria (MoP) - Sept 2012
-----=====LOOT TYPE KEY=====-----
TYPE DEFINITIONS:
DKP - Dragon Kill Points
http://www.wowwiki.com/Dragon_kill_points
GDKP - Gold Dragon Kill Points
http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t77416-gdkp_run_discussion_spread_your_server
SLS - Shroud Loot System
http://www.wowwiki.com/Shroud_Loot_System
A heavily modified DKP system developed by the guild Shroud that attempts to correct perceived flaws in the original system.
EPGP - Effort Points Gear Points
http://www.wowwiki.com/EPGP
SK - Suicide Kings
http://www.wowwiki.com/Suicide_Kings
LC - Loot Council
http://www.wowwiki.com/Loot_Council
LL - Loot List
A modified Loot Council system developed by the guild Reawaken of US-Staghelm. Requires raiders to present loot 'lists' from an instance in order of personal priority. High attendance is integral to equipment consideration. The system has displayed a fair distribution by not neglecting new raiders, and has since spread cross server to other raid guilds.
MS/OS - Main Spec / Off Spec /random loot priority distribution system.
MPQ - Minimum Performance Qualification
A modified MS/OS variation used primarily in PUG raiding. Individuals must meet required performance benchmarks in order to be eligible for loot, thus preventing freeloading and encouraging strong play.
FR - Free Roll without priority or formal limitations but often including consideration.
-----=====GUILD SUBMISSION FORMAT=====-----
*If your guild is not listed, please submit an entry with the following format and all variables answered to their completeness. In addition, please verify your guild has been raiding on the same set schedule for 3 consecutive weeks. This is not a thread for new hopefuls, but established and solidified guilds with set schedules.
Your Guild Name:
Alliance or Horde:
Website Address: (a fully functional website with no malicious software - copy your addy from your browser here)
Raid Schedule: (Day(s) of the week, From When TO When)
Raid Size: 10 or 25man
Raid Type: (Hardcore, Serious, Dedicated, Casual, or Relaxed) - (Size)
Date Founded (Period): (ex. 02/08 (BC), or 07/06 (Vanilla), or 11/09 (Wrath))
Loot Distribution System: (ex. DKP, EPGP, Loot Council, Free Roll, etc.)
Voice Chat: (Ventrilo/Teamspeak/None/etc.)
Age Range: (Average age range of your guildies, ex. 10-15, 15-20, 20-25, 25-30, 30-40, 50+, etc.)
This information will then be translated into a Guild Entry that looks as follows:
(A) Example - http://www.example.com
Tue/Wed/Mon 7-11pm
Serious-25, Classic-Guild (01/05), DKP (LC tokens), Ventrilo, 21-30
*****IMPORTANT NOTE***** - If your submission does not follow the submission format or qualifications, it will not be added until done so. Adhere to the qualifications to be listed - Your Guild MUST have raided on the same schedule for 3 weeks. Follow the Format Directions to their entirety. If you slipshod your submission, a slipshod response you'll receive - if any.
-----=====GDKP & PUG RL FORMAT GUIDE=====-----
If you wish to formally list your weekly GDKP runs, or formally identify yourself and your raid specifics as a PUG RL, please submit the following information:
Your Name (and Guild if GDKP):Additional Contact Names (Including alts):Schedule of Content: (when and what)Loot Distribution System: (see above definitions)Minimum Gearscore Requirement (if applicable): (ICC25 - 5k, ToC25 - 4.6k, etc)Minimum Gold Requirement (if applicable):Achievement Requirements (if applicable): (Y/N)Individual Class Requirements (if applicable): (Tank Health, +heals, sustained dps)Ventrilo: (Y/N)
Your information will then be implemented into a similar layout as below.
(A) JoeRaidLead - Sat ToC25 @3pm
LDS: MS/OS
Min Gearscore: 4600
Achievements: No
Class Reqs: Tanks - +40k Health, Heals - +2k, DPS - 5k sustained
Ventrilo/TS: Yes
Contacts: Bubba, Tangaray, Maryjane
Q: Why should we submit or update our guild info, or even use this resource?A: This resource is for people looking for a new guild from on server, and off server, and for those looking to create one by seeing when other guilds are already raiding. It is good for all guilds because it is another source of potential recruiting that further helps guilds acquire members that fit their raid schedules for one.
Q: Why do we need to answer the additional questions about us, you have our web and schedule?A: Because for another reason, it is not only important to find a guild that fits a person's schedule, but also one that fits their frame of mind and play-style. This helps increase the likelihood of a more appropriate fit. Like minds with like minds as they say.
Q: We already have recruit threads, why would we need this 'resource/guide'?A: Unfortunately the vast majority of guilds do not list their schedules in easy to find locations on their webpages, and there currently is no website that provides guild raid schedules on a server side by side with each other for quick referencing anymore then categorizing them by time periods. Additionally, this adds to your current recruit thread, and unlike those threads, it becomes a permanent recruit tool for you without you having to do anything except for the occasional update. Your guild info, status, and listing won't need to be '/bump'd because it will always be there at the top of the forums. By simply having your schedule shown can attract individuals to your guild without you even having to do anything.
Additionally, raiders searching for a new guild that have used my other Raider Resources have found them to be incredibly helpful in their search. You simply only have to read the recruit threads from guilds that fit your schedule and style after quickly glancing at my resource. In essence, it dramatically cuts down in the amount of research you have to do to find a new guild.
Q: Wait. You have more then one of these?A: Correct. The first one was started 11/13/2007 and is still maintained, but is noticeably less robust (as it caters to a casual server). Additional Resources have started being added since in March of this year. I have refined and streamlined it and learned what NOT to do and where to get my information more quickly. The process of adding them to additional servers continues.
At a certain point all these individual realm resources will become connected to a master, as they will be included in a future resource on the Dungeon & Raids forum (possibly the guild recruitment forums as well). Once connected, this inner 'network' will greatly help with the facilitation of players finding more appropriate guilds and servers, drastically cutting down on the time spent arbitrarily looking for a new guild/server to play on/with.
Q: What servers currently have a Raiding Resource?A: Malygos, Medivh, Illidan, Hyjal, and Korgath.
Q: Won't this become an insane amount of work for you to maintain a bunch of threads?A: Surprisingly not. The initial setup takes the longest amount of time. After that it becomes simple maintenance. Because I provide formats for submissions, and requirements to submit, it becomes very quick and easy to update the threads as necessary. I've already been doing it for over 2 and a half years, and the amount of time to maintain one has been relatively minimal.
ROLL CALL - Listen Up!This is the new Korgath Raiding Resource that is designed to join a growing network of resources on other servers to help you, the raid guild and the raider. It is designed to find more appropriate guilds to join for the raider, and more appropriate applicants to acquire for the guild - as it works as a soft form of recruitment on behalf of the guilds who choose to participate in it once stickied.
Participation in this thread is voluntary and I currently only have a few guilds I pulled off wowprogress simply to display how it works. If any of these guilds would prefer not to be listed, indicate so and I'll have yours removed. (Although I don't know why since these are designed to help you and I don't track progression).
I have been maintaining these guides since BC, and they have been well received on Malygos, Medivh, Hyjal, and Illidan. They have also received a number of makeovers/upgrades over the years.
Q: Why should you list your guild?
A : Because once it is stickied it works as a soft form of recruitment on your guild's behalf without you ever having to 'bump' it. You're only required to keep your information up to date, and this changes rarely. Aka, it's free guild advertising.
So don't wait til later, it takes 30 seconds. Do it now.
ABOUT KORGATH -
Answers for Transfers or those considering.Not sure about horde, but i know there's raids going on alliance side almost non stop at all hours. As for tension between factions.. world pvp is pretty much dead, and has been for a long time. Not sure what you mean by tension, but it's not like 'oh im alliance i hate the horde im going to smash them every chance i get'. This isn't an rp server, don't think anybody really cares.
- Noodles
Speaking from the horde side, there are raids at all hours and stuff is always going on. But do not invite blindly people to your raids, as with any server, or your raid will then be comprised of incompetent morons who think they are better then they really are, or are expecting to get carried thru 'lolcontent' they still haven't managed to down anywhere else with anyone else... oh and expect zero wipes. There's a lot of "noob tude" on the server that I've seen. The inside joke is that Korgath is for the pro's and Kargath is for the noob wanna-be's and crap raiders. Unfortunately a lot of the nibs yammering on about this sentiment, should be the ones on KARgath.
The strength of Korgath is not in the PUG raid scene tho, as it is particularly weak and lacking such things as regular GDKP events, and what is cleared by a random PUG is a crap shoot - as most RL's who lead them are either incompetent nubs blabbering on with no organization or pre-planning or raid configuration consideration, or are farming particular items/reasons and then leave their own raids once these objectives are acquired (or they didn't drop).
Instead Korgath's strength is in the guild progression raid scene, where both sides are heavily populated with competitive guilds recruiting. Because of this you can often find 'rare gems' in raiders when you hold open events or build your own raid guild. It is fertile ground in that sense, a good place to build. So if you are shopping for a competitive guild to raid with, horde or alliance doesn't matter, then Korgath is a solid server. It is why I ended up transferring with my core here to start my own raid guild, which is still going strong. In fact, we're currently expanding.
As for the Racial Split, until MoP it was a 1:1 ratio but since Pandaland's implementation it has been an approx 2:1 in favor of the Alliance. World PvP is alive and well here, with both factions regularly attacking the other during dailies, camping PvP vendors, or even small incursions into each other's shrine. Because of the imbalance, Horde have learned to stick/work together during dailies, with those who don't either being free kills who haven't grasped the concept, or some of the most deadly of the bunch hardened by being regularly outnumbered yet coming out on top.
Prognosis: If you're looking for a healthy PUG raids scene and raid options ouside of guild raiding, look elsewhere. If you are looking for a competitive raid guild, or looking to start one, look no further.
- Lovepony
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Additionally because of the high population and even split between factions, Korgath used to host some of the largest Tol Barad battles stateside. There is still some activity in TB, ut it is a far cry of our 'glory days' last expansion.
Requested sticky goodness, you should, too!
Sticky requested.
Also, Existence raids Monday-Thursday 6:30-10:30.
Sticky requested.
Also, Existence raids Monday-Thursday 6:30-10:30.
K ty. Changed the Sun to Mon in your schedule listing.
Can you please also provide the following information?:
Website Address: ???
Raid Type: ??? (see section 8 http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3279041124?page=1#8 )
Date Founded (Period): ??? (ex. 02/08 (BC), or 07/06 (Vanilla), or 11/09 (Wrath))
Loot Distribution System: ??? (ex. DKP, EPGP, Loot Council, Free Roll, etc.)
Voice Chat: ??? (Ventrilo/Teamspeak/None/etc.)
Age Range: ??? (Average age range of your guildies, ex. 10-15, 15-20, 20-25, 25-30, 30-40, 50+, etc.)
I'd like to make an actual guild entry for you guys in the Alliance section. The more information you can provide about yourselves, the better off you are in people who 'fit the mold' of your guild will find you.
Sticky requested, get to it!
Great resource for Korgath! sticky requested
I've seen these around before, and hope that they can become a great resource. In fact, if this thread does take off, I'd be happy to cut the guild info section out of our progression thread as it will then be less work for me lol.
Let me add (update?) our guild.
Your Guild Name: Conviction
Alliance or Horde: Horde
Raid Schedule: Tues-Thurs 8:30pm-12:30am Server Time
Raid Size: 25 man
Website Address: www.conviction-korgath.com
Raid Type: Serious
Date Founded (Period): February 2009 (very early wrath)
Loot Distribution System: Loot Council
Voice Chat: Ventrilo
Age Range: 18-30
Updates:
Existence
updatedConviction
updatedI've seen these around before, and hope that they can become a great resource. In fact, if this thread does take off, I'd be happy to cut the guild info section out of our progression thread as it will then be less work for me lol.
Thanks Voltage, that means a lot to me =^)