Hi Blizzard Devs?
My spec, Windwalker is currently so bad that I am being benched for grey parsing dps specs. Our utility in raid does not count for much when it’s replicated by a Brewmaster or Mistweaver, which are currently more meta in their roles.
Stacking corruption Isn’t the solution because while we can prevent damage from Grand Delusions or higher pretty well. Using ROP or stunning all the adds in raid can be a detrimental to the rest of the raid.
5% damage buff please (at least make us competitive with demon hunters)
-Brt
P.s While your at it please fix Whirling Dragon Punch so it ALWAYS is usable when rising sun kick and fists of fury are on cooldown. (If you can despawn N’zoth for all NA realms this shouldn’t be difficult)
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Yea, I thought that was just me… that’s so weird. Sometimes there’s like 3s left on FoF and I can’t use WDP >.<
I’m surprised that bug, and the one that causes your SEF clones to stand around doing nothing has been allowed to persist for an entire expansion.
/sads
*Edit: To be perfectly honest, if they just came out and said, “Hey guys, this sucks but we have no idea how to fix it. We’re sorry.” – I’d be happy.
Avatar of the Winds, to replace SEF.
You do 30% increased damage and your melee abilities cleave onto the two nearest targets.
if WW ever went back to being good again id go back to my old monk main
If you’re not a mythic world first raider, find a better guild.
This is a game.
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The problem is that classes that are under performing are STILL doing better than him so his spot is being taken. Why bring a great WW when a mediocre demon hunter is doing better damage?
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Yikes haha. I didn’t really notice in Legion because I started half way through and didn’t raid.
I thought I was doing ok at the start of NYA but then our rogue and DH got a few upgrades and now they usually do like 20% more than I do 
Part of it though is crappy luck on corruption…
Because this is a game, and you don’t lose anything if your raid parses slightly lower than optimal.
A guild is a gaming group; if your gaming group doesn’t want to game with you, find one that will.
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Yes but if the difference in success and failure is if you could do 20% more dmg than what you are currently bringing into the group, then you sort of feel like a hindrance instead of a help.
In practice, that is an extreme edge case outside of the mythic first race. I know that everyone here thinks that that is them, but it really, really isn’t. I know that these differences seem big, but they really, really aren’t.
When you have to play perfectly to be even with people who are playing sub optimally on their stronger classes, it doesn’t feel good for casuals
I would humbly suggest that, if the team is clearing the content, don’t worry about comparing D meters and try to enjoy the game.
Warcraft logs has WW like 1% below the median.
Pretty much equal to both shaman specs, mut rogues, shadow, and moonkins.
Did you bench all of those as well?
Someone always has to be at the bottom. WW AoE is so good that you can’t just give them the best single target damage.
Also I raid with some pretty good players and i’m always near the top in damage. Windwalker is easily the most rewarding and fun spec in the entire game. I’m fine with it not being #1 in DPS.
The problem blizzard ran in to is when they moved towards “bring the player not the class” mechanics like we had in BC. Back then you had to bring one of everything for the specific utility each class brought to the raid. Now that all of the classes pretty much do the same thing, you may as well bring 7 holy pallies because they are just better than any other healer in raids.
So in an effort to bring the player not the class, they actually just compounded the issue. Now all the good players are playing the same class.
Each spec should bring something specific to the raid. The ones that don’t bring unique utility should just be DPS chart toppers. I never understood how hybrid classes could compete or out dps pure dps classes. Warlocks, rogues, Hunters and Mages should be on top of every meter. Everyone else should be below them but bring something unique that makes up for their DPS. Like Enhance shaman in the early days; their DPS was below everyone else but the buff they gave the ENTIRE raid was worth more than the difference another rogue would make. They need to get back to this.
Or, you could play a demon hunter and do great single target damage and ae damage with little drop off between talent builds.
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They do still have this. From what I’ve seen most guilds want to bring a monk for the 5% Mystic Tough debuff. However, mostly every raid team has a brewmaster already because they are pretty much the best raid tank which doesn’t leave room for a windwalker is most cases when DH, warriors, rogues (all other melee) are topping us in meters pretty easily.
Yes but we shouldn’t be the lowest spec. Too much of our dmg is in ToD, they need to leech some of that to normal rotation.
Ww aoe isn’t all that powerful
Yes WW AOE has a reputation for being OP apparently. People keep telling me I should be owning at Hivemind, and I’m just like…have you seen the parses. Leave me alone. I finally just got my Dance azerite yesterday as well, not that it will help much WW are still parsing at the bottom for that fight.
Sorry mate, but what you are saying reflects your lack of knowledge about Windwalker monks.
There are many other specs doing better AoE than WW, and if you check out warcraftlogs, you will understand what am I saying.
Vexiona mythic: top 95% percentile in this fight means focusing on adds with having an AoE build + AoE essences + AoE corruptions. It’s a packed AoE fight. WW monk rank: 14 out of 19 specs (Worst class)
Hivemind mythic: Like Vexiona 95% percentile in this fight is equal to AoE build, essences, and corruptions. A mixture of packed and spread AoE fight. WW monk rank: 18 out of 24 specs (Again worst class)
Carapace Heroic: (No WW parses on mythic version). Not only WW can do a huge packed AoE on this fight, but also you can use trans to go to the other side of a tentacle to have extra AoE while other specs (other than locks) cannot do that. WW also benefits from it’s huge movement spells for this fight to have more target during phase 2. WW rank: 14 out of 24 specs (Again worst spec)
The claim that “WW AoE is SO good” is simply false.
Also, the other thing that I hear over and over in Monk’s forum is that “someone always has to be at the bottom” which is super annoying. Yes, someone needs to be at the bottom, but that someone SHOULD CHANGE. half of a patch? OK, fine! A whole patch? OK, can be fine! A whole expansion? Funny 
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WW does have their unique utilities like their insane movements, RoP, their physical buff and their movement speed buff. The problem is, for all of these utilities there is another spec that does it WAY better, BrM and MW can do that, or it’s not needed in raid. You cannot expect WW shines DHs exist.
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