Why do the developers insist on longer raids? One of the reasons M+ is so much more popular than raiding is because of the time investment required. They could solve this by splitting a tier into two 3-4 boss raids to decrease the time required instead of continuously pushing 8-10 boss raids and ending with a 15 minute encounter each time (no boss should last longer than 7 minutes in my opinion, I’m sorry, it just isn’t fun).
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I miss those little 1 boss raids from old expansions too.
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Citation needed. It’s far more possible Mythic Keystones are “more popular” (if they even are, that is) than raiding is because raids have a weekly lockout for loot whereas dungeons do not.
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I mean it’s certainly possible it’s a combination of both.
Raiding just takes longer. Objectively, and that can be a turn off to players.
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Cuz when they’re too short then people complain about that
You don’t have to do all the bosses at 1 time…
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If you have an 8-boss raid, you can just run a few bosses one day, then come back another day and run the rest.
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This raid was long ? 
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There’s a lot more downtime in raiding between bosses/boss attempts and a lot more organization required. I stopped raiding a few expansions ago because I just cannot bear the sound of most peoples voices on voice chat.
With M+ you can operate on your own schedule and in my opinion gearing up is better/easier.
Wiping 8 minutes into a 10 minute encounter 
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It was short…and it was designed so it could be easily separated into 3 wings. Not sure what else the OP wants. Maybe they want to walk through an instance portal to get to each wing?
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this is the major reason I don’t raid - I don’t want to spend anymore than 30 minutes in there. Ideally you could do one boss and minimal trash which would be more like 15 minutes. Then I would raid.
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The raid length is fine. If they wanted to add an additional raid along with this one that was just a couple bosses that would be fine.
But a short raid as the main raid? Dumb idea.
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I think raids are just fine.
A series of five or barely more fights spread over a few hours is a nice contrast to a 25-minute intense run with everything on the line.
Dungeon runs and raiding are different and that is terrific.
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Why do people assume mythic+ is so popular? It’s “forced” content. People complain about it constantly. That whole “mythic+ saved the game” nonsense is just that. Nonsense. “Oh well I only play for mythic+” says some player. “I quit because of mythic+” says another.
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This.
There are a lot of silly things that need to go.
- Really long wipe runs.
- Food buffs - why aren’t they instant like flasks or have the buff persist on death (I know of the embelishment, but this should be default)
- Easier return to dungeon entrance in case you need summons (or a summon scroll for inscription - 1 scroll to summon 1 player)
Silly little things like that - that over the course of raid can add up to massive amounts of time.
There is a reason why folks keep their groups in queue even if they don’t need or intend to invite anyone (just so there is a pool to pull from if/when someone drops).
Little things like that would go a long way.
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Im sorta with you I like the 8-10 boss raids, but I do wish side raids with 1-2 bosses would be added more.
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Yeah, but people complain about everything.
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Oh and also boss length had been creeping up.
Sylv was particularly egregious. Boring fight that was excessively long (phase 2).
I think I killed it 2 or 3 times, before I just stopped completely. It was just too long and annoying for an awful bow drop rate.
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Sanctum in my opinion was among the worst raids they’ve ever designed and Sylvannas fight was one of the reasons