So how crucial is it that you have epics for PvP when Phase 2 drops?
It’s very crucial
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very sadly
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in phase 2 raid gear is the best PvP gear you can get.
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depends on class. Shadow priest don’t have many items to get from molten core and most bis +shadow/spd is blue. Bunch of stuff from diremaul
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dungeons blue often lack stamina ( and int for caster), there’s some ridiculous weapons available ( vis’kag, bonereaver’s edge, rhok’delar) and… well, just a big stats advantage.
rank 12-14 PvP gear can compete, but that’s a really small chunk of the PvP’er ( who might also be raiders). as the phases unlock, the difference between non-raider and raider become more and more intense…
Welcome to classic, if you aren’t raiding you’re a second-class citizen. Be prepared to get global’d by a bunch of stuff ( 3 min mage/shaman, sword proc on warrior, windfury, ambush with perdition blade, a random 2k aimed shot - 1k multi shot from 40 yard… and so on.)
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Raid gear is the best gear in the game. If you’re in better gear, you’ll generally win match ups against players that are in worse gear. Even the pvp sets are lack luster compared to most raid gear. Just the way she goes.
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Hide in the zerg, keep eyes out for DM filler gear, and keep raiding to catch up. Youll know which raid pieces can be subbed.
1v1 youll get smoked without the top gear (notice I said top, not BiS or even raid…there are non meta builds that do okay but run by players with insane skills and experience)
Oh yeah: trinket, and duel until your hands fall off.
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Strange… when I was pvping, our groups in pvp gear usually wiped the floor with the “raid geared” groups that came in, due to the huge amounts of health pvp gear has
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I have to believe Blizzard learned from their mistake and will not force PvPers to raid for PvP gear. It makes zero sense.
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Learned from mistakes? It is the same game (basically). Are you expecting changes?
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No idea what you’re talking about. How is raiding and PvP the same game?
Yes I am expecting some tweaks and minor changes as they have already. What’s the point of repeating past mistakes when it’s been proven to drive away PvPers and that is the whole reason behind classic, the PvP.
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I mean the game is basically the same as it was in 2005. What you are asking for is a complete overhaul of raid/pvp gearing. People would throw a huge fit if they did this.
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H U G E!!! Back when this first hit the Hardcore raiders swept over the BGS like Gods! because all of us non raiders were in greens and a couple blues while raiders had 2-3 pieces of epic gear sets or worse full sets! Seeing a Paladin or Shaman wielding a Hand of Sulfuras was instant death usually.
But then they implemented PvP gear by ranks and things equaled out!
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I wouldn’t call it a complete overhaul, but it was the huge imbalance between raiding gear that caused a lot of problems for the BG’s and WPvP.
People will throw a huge fit if that happens again. Classic is all about the PvP not the raiding.
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Have you done 0 research? Blizzard isnt making balance changes. The best gear comes from raiding in classic. Thats the way it is.
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That’s my point, it WASN’T balanced and it needs to be addressed.
The best PvP gear should come from PvP and farming honor points, not endless PvE monsters.
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Yes if they are bringing pvp but not gear that would be a major suck! Like HUGE suck!
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This isn’t a new game. They are re-doing the classic experience. I did fine in BGs after farming my PVP gear with a group of friends. I didnt start raiding till after I already had marshal gear…
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Right, but there was a time they implemented BGs but had no gear just titles!