Racial Deathchargers

Now that everyone has had the opportunity to get their hands on Rider of the Apocalypse with all its mounted Death Knight glory, there is one hiccup I think the spec makes. It’s about the Deathcharger itself…

See…if you’re a human or a blood elf or something, then the Deathcharger you ride makes sense, a horse. A dark analog to the Paladin Divine Steeds of the respective race.

For just about any other race of death knight, though, you…still have a horse for your deathcharger. It kinda looks out of place on races like tauren, draenei, or trolls that don’t sit comfortably on their horses.

I’ve seen plenty of people suggesting they finish revamps for the divine steeds so steeds like the human/blood elf one can catch up in quality to the other races, and I agree, but I don’t think they should stop there. They should also add racial variations of the deathcharger, similar to what paladin has, converting the mounts of your chosen race into a deathcharger.

An Acherus Deathraptor for Trolls, Wolf for Orcs, Nightsaber for night elves, so on.

I don’t think this has been a very high concern for most people until now since your mount was never such a part of your class’s gameplay like it’s been for paladin. Rider of the Apocalypse changes that. Now your class mount is a HUGE part of your gameplay, so this less-thought-of layer of polish would be more welcome now than ever before

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I like that idea a lot. Specially if you can also summon this mount normally outside of combat. It would be really cool

Deathcharger should replace Death Advance for all specs. Death Advance is SO lame!

If not replaced and give something else for Raider hero tree, we should at least have a glyph to replace Death Advance.

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Sucks blood is left out on this. Deathcharger is just too epic.

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its alright. the mount is just the torghast charger, already had it, and its render on the feet is odd. for me the OG charger is still better and still needs a model update.

DKs are supposed to have the same deathcharger mount. we are all united in death.

I like the ones the four horsemen rode on in legion

thats the horde pvp mount model recolored, as alliance you can get midnight from legion karazan.

they did us a dirty by not giving us an updated deathcharger. they just keep taking shortcuts and giving us already existing dead horses. the riders talent isnt’ even a unique recolor, its the same mount you can get from torghast for free at this point.

I just want it to fly. Honestly, I love horses, and I HATE giant mounts. It makes it more difficult to navigate especially when you need to see more of things around you.

So naturally, I love my paladin and warlock legion class hall mounts the best. I especially love how paladins can turn divine steed to use your legion mount of your choice.

I’d love for them to do the same for the acherus charger. And make it fly. And update its model

no, i put the crimson deathcharger on my bars because it doesn’t fly. and specifically because it has some of the best animations in the game. most of the horses in game suck, including invincible. this is because if you are trying to do things like precision jumps and footwork in order to do perfect map lines you need a mount with quick and responsive animation. this difference is so important the H250 mount ends up being more popular than the H500 mount in bgs.

invincible just rides along on rails while his feet dangle, one of the worst animated mounts in the game, i feel so bad for people still farming this mount thinking its cool.

I’d say giving all the acherus racial variations the same “archerus steed” colors and barding would sufficiently fill that same idea. I just don’t feel it makes too much sense for EVERY race to be using a horse, in particular, when different mounts can still accomplish a unified feeling

Yeah, I mean, the mount itself isn’t the coolest DK themed mount we’ve ever seen, and it’d be nice to have a barber shop option to customize it (likewise for pally steeds btw), but I’m talking more about the gameplay of how we’re able to use it now.

Oh yeah, Tyrael’s charger does that too, and I wish it would do a bit more, but the worst animated skyriding mount has to be, by far, the engineer’s flying machine.
The landing skis are bugged out and conjoin together under it, the helicopter blade rotors don’t come out in flight, and the engines are always pointed upward unless you’re surging forward, it’s completely messed up compared to it’s static flight animations

perhaps in todays game that might make sense, but back in vanilla and BC everyone was on a racial mount by default unless you happened to be lucky enough to get a rare drop/rep/tcg mount or a class mount.

so then along came DK and not only could every race be a DK, but no matter your race you would get a badass screaming deathcharger. at the time that was huge, especially if your racial mount was less than desirable. everyone getting the same mount regardless of race was a DK perk.

I’m all for more mounts but the thing is that we don’t have “racial” DK mounts.
Our mount comes from a questline.
We steal a horse. Then turn it into our Death Charger.
It wouldn’t make sense to steal a horse and then it becomes inexplicably a raptor or something.

So hence Death Charger is a horse.
But I want more DK mounts so give more DK mounts.

That questline doesn’t exist anymore in retail. The starter dk experience is now set in more recent story, just spawning on the frozen throne and talking to the bolvar lich king.

So there’s really no more quest continuity reason for the deathcharger to stay as just a horse. Now I do still think it would be lame to lose access to it, which is why I suggest a barber shop menu for charger customization (both paladin and DK) where you can change your mount with the original charger being a default available option

You could remove a lot of text on this post, by just saying you want glyphs to change what your deathchager is

and the glyphs for it should already exist, but blizz doesnt like doing anything that makes the game cool, they just pump out the same boring pve content on repeat every patch

Yes it does.

You’re right, I always try to fact check myself before making claims like this, but the random race I picked when making a new dk to check happened to be an allied race, which just starts on icecrown and gets sent to their faction city.

However, the reason for this is because allied races start at level 10…
DKs of normal races start at level 8…
The acherus experience kinda sucks anyways, so maybe it SHOULD be removed and all dks just given the same start as the allied races. If the big difference that deserves a brand new simpler starting experience is just 2 levels, then what’s the point of making them seperate?

The origin of the 3rd generation DK’s shouldnt be removed. Its a pretty important part of the history of DK’s (better than that SL crap). But if we really want to get into the mud of it all, there should be no new DK’s because there isnt a LK to create them.

I mean, i get that, but it’s just such an annoying questline to get through when you actually play it, and how important is it REALLY? Is it something that can’t be summarized in the little intro flythrough cinematic when you create a new character, and still have the same outcome of catching people up to the origin of the playable DKs?

If the quest really needs to stay, then maybe racial chargers can be done by adding them as options in the barber shop while the default remains the horse