Some terrible changes right before launch.
I understand tweaking things, but specifically for changes to Orc - where they had axe spec (as humans had sword spec). Orc now has nothing replacing it for melee characters, yet humans receive the same bonus that orcs had.
Orc is one of those iconic races (Humans vs Orcs). Stop biasing your changes to the alliance side, it’s obvious a very weak.
Bring back something for Orc
That and 10% Spirit for humans is CRAZY
5% pet damage for orcs just makes them good for Locks and Hunters, which was the whole reason the stat bonus was normalized away from being axe/sword specific.
None of the Horde now have a passive stat increase towards crit or hit or damage. Tauren get 5% HP and double plainsrunning speed which, while cool, is not what was asked for at all.
Also the whole ley line thing for alliance skyborne is dumb strong, while horde get what? some movement speed?
Blizz, C’mon now, this is ridiculous
I feel ya brother, from across the faction we hear the Orc squeak.
Seriously though, rough change for anything not hunter or lock. I think they are leaning hard into WC3 Beast Master.
Humans gave up 1% crit for 5% spirit. However, Human Priest lookin tasty.
2% crit was already ridiculous and needed to be rolled back.
Human casters though are loving this; crit and extra spirit.
Then they went and gave the Tauren racials to dwarfs instead of just coming up with something cool for them.
For the love of god, just put plainsrunning back down to 30% and give tauren the 1% hit back.
Really bad news for the future of Forever. Took them weeks to cook up even worse racial changes, and then said these are final - NO CHANGES!
The Tauren change is the funniest:
“Hey, we liked 1% Hit more than 2% Crit Damage, why did you nerf the race with the worst racials?”
“Okay fine, you don’t get Hit or Crit Damage then.”
1% crit is laughable at 60 in gear. Taking 1% haste from Skyborne Alliance is a painful pinch but it does place Alliance Mage on a more even level for Gnome and Skyborne.
Problem with ORc is that it was the only race that had 2 useful defensives and 2 useful offensives, it was obvious that they were gonna gut them
at the end of the day, most of these racials will lead to no more than a 2-3% difference in DPS and I acknowledge that.
However, Alliance Skyborne with the mana regen is 1000000x better than the Horde movement one.
1% increase in any stat is still good, really good later on in averages.
I would LOVE to see more “burst” actives go in for all races, and everyone get a passive of some kind, plenty of increase options
@Blizzard
It really is this easy.
For rogues? Mana regen bis on a rogue vs 30% movement speed? Breath. You need to see things from both sides and not just horde.
It is so crazy these devs are part of the same company that made Warcraft 3.
Not the same devs. And don’t believe the “we had folks working back then still here” yeah, sure, interns fetching coffee don’t count as legacy.
Rogues and warriors will be going Gnome or Night Elf for the big crit or extra resources.
I am looking at overall stats for both sides here mate - Horde is getting shafted a tad more here.
Every single Alliance race has something really good about them at the moment
Humans - Sprit + Crit
Elves - Crit Burst + Shadow Meld + Movement Speed + Rogues/Druids harder to detect
Gnomes - More resources (energy/mana/rage) + Eureka! + Escape Artist
Dwarf (happy to say) - 1% hit (massive) + Stoneform
Horde are getting nerfed like crazy
Orc - Blood Fury + removed crit + extra pet damage? + Hardiness and Shatter Curse (happy to trade that back for some crit or something_
Tauren - Cultivation + Warstomp + removed crit damage or hit with 5% HP + a level 40 mount at level 1 which is moronic (I say this again as a to-be Tauren here on the fourth)
Trolls - Worse than Dwarfes were - Beserking (which is effectively weaker than skyborne built in passive haste in the long run) + Regen + Bigger Regen that works like a bandage?
Undead - Touch of the Grave (cool concept, sucks for anyone aside from maybe a tank) + Cannibalize + Will of the Forsaken + Underwater breathing
Alliance racials are significantly better across the board.
Yes I understand that, however there is still Warcraft 3 to take from.
Feels like they are making the so called “balancing” worse and worse intentionally.
I guess we know why all the streamers who spoke with the devs are going Alliance. This “final” pass just solidifies it. faction imbalance is going to be real
They continue to nerf horde racials and buff alliance…
Removed 1% hit from Tauren for whatever excuse but then go and add it to alliance?
Makes no sense.
All the racials need to be reworked entirely, to where they are somewhat more equal and not lopsided.
I agree that the racials needed to be reworked. After the change today… they still need to be reworked. This wasn’t the right direction.
I offered my suggestions on another thread days ago, before the last change, so I’m not going to do that again here.
At this rate, I’d almost rather they just got rid of them entirely.
If gnomes get energy off Eureka any reason Cannibalize doesn’t considering the mana regeneration was supposed to be part of the compensation package? You’re eating a bunch of calories seems pretty energizing to me.