Racial Balance

Feels a bit strange. Void elves already have a pretty decent racial utility and damage wise. And arent suffering from being barely played either. (though I have a feeling this proc adjustment will be a nerf for most specs, as atm it has an ICD of 1 min and I imagine they will make it proc more consistently).

The big racials to look into for most classes damage wise are:

  • Undead
  • Earthen
  • Pandaren

As they lag significantly behind the rest. In addition to vulpera and zandalari which were buffed.

Utility wise:

  • Undead
  • Blood Elf
  • Earthen
  • Nightborne

All offer some pretty bad active racials that could’ve used a redesign/update. The racials that offer flat bonuses and go from being very good at the start of the expac to mediocre/bad at the end like:

  • Orc/Mag’har
  • Mechagnome

Probably could’ve had their racials adjusted to not drop off so steeply, nor be so ahead at the start of every expansion.

Tbh if they want more racial diversity they should just remove damage bonuses at least from racials. And take a look into why some specs overly favor some races (priests/warlocks and goblin for instance) as thats an issue with class design. No one is going to play worgen because their speed bonus now stacks with other bonuses.

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also nerf shadowmeld, it’s reigned for long enough

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Dwarf has been far better in recent years, its one of or the best damage racials for most classes, while offering an insane defensive active. Nelf, while its done some crazy things in the mdi at times, is much more niche in the mechanics it allows you to ignore/live.

They say they’re fixing up racials that may have fallen by the way side as the game has progressed. I do love archeology, but if they don’t plan on adding more, it would need updated to something they plan to continue to put in the game.

Add some warbands and silly human tricks for rep buffs, swaps right away, but we haven’t had a new digsite or fossil to put together in a few xpacs now.

Buff Humans or give us new Arathi racials.

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buff pandas

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How did nightborne not get buffed?

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Darkflights change is nice-ish but i cant think of a lot of time itll be useful to stack on purpose. Maybe if you hit it and then a druid stampedes or a shaman drops totem so it doesnt feel like you fully wasted it.

Was really hoping its be reworked to like a double jump while its active, a small leap before the sprint since npc worgen have super jumps, or even just reduced movement impairment while its up like deaths advance or ghost wolf so snares dont just negate it.
As a movement tool it really is the most bare bones one can be, cant blink mechanics like void elf, doesnt disrupt knockbacks like goblins, doesnt prevent fall damage like dracthyrs, it just you go slightly faster.

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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make Pandaren food buff last through death. Maybe a little bit more powerful than double effect but through death would be huge.

Also inner peace needs to be replaced with something helpful. Leveling speed now makes it totally pointless instead of just mostly pointless.

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Please, please, please buff undead man. It is such a great race and has been underperforming for so many years.

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Uh no it’s alrdy one of the most powerful racials because it works with noncombat foods too.

Earthen needs fixed. Their finesse racial gives NOTHING. I imagine it was supposed to be 2.5% but someone messed up.
Also earthen racial locks them out of combat food. One of the worst draw backs of any racial. They either need to make a gemed version of ALL foods or just allow them to eat regular food and gems just have no timer. Pretty simple.

i want to buff my trolls racial too.

*Beast Slaying: Experience gains from killing Beasts increased by 20%.

it must be %25 at least. very crucial for us.

The only acceptable solution is to just disable racials in instanced content.

Forced race diversity is just an absolute crap way of balancing them. Let people play what they like.

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People can play what they want lol.

In some situations, specially those in high end, there’s not a choice.

Shadowmeld is incredibly broken in M+ scenarios.
Dwarf racials are incredibly broken in M+ scenarios.

For some people, the choice is either “play what I like” or “play the best”. That choice sucks to take.

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These changes are a good start, but I’d like to see the human racial redesigned to something generally useful, and night elf and dwarves brought down to a reasonable level. I’m sure there are other tweaks that can be made as well.

The human racial definitely needs to be redesigned. Does it even do anything if you’re a healer? The shared cooldown is the same cooldown as the normal PvP trinket isn’t it?

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If Archaeology isn’t going to be updated anymore, Bronzebeard Dwarves should have their Explorer racial changed to something else. Could revert back to Find Treasure like the old days, or maybe instead of showing treasure chests on the map they can get a bonus to gold looting and be parity with the Zandalari.

shadowmeld is really strong. more than half players of pvp ers are night elf.
there are more night elf players than combined horde players.
when im trying to get war chest as horde player there is always 1 vs 3 at least . sometimes 1vs 5 . and most of them are night elf.

Yea, an entire role can’t use the human racial in PvP.

Indeed, Shadowmeld is incredibly broken in PvP. If it were nerfed to no longer provide that brief moment of immunity, it would still be useful for avoiding CC / dropping focus, and I suppose for sitting at a node in Blitz. Its interactions with rogue and druid are stupid as well. I’d be really frustrated if I played these classes and wanted to be anything else because you’re shooting yourself in the foot if you choose to play another race.

Don’t forget how busted Fireblood / Stoneform are either. Buffing the bad racials is super needed and a wonderful change, but dwarves and night elf will still be head and shoulders above anything else. I should be Dark Iron instead of human, but I just don’t like dwarf animations, and so I guess I have to be worse.

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