Why do people make such a big deal over sharding the STARTING zones for 2 weeks? You did get that right?. It doesn't seem like anyone understands anything, Also for the people saying that they don't care if there is server queues, They want no shards. How about you guys not play until the sharding is gone?
This is why sharding is needed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-v2GRYLKys
Also the whole loot sharing.... Just master loot. Done
If you trust the devs to implement sharding just at the start you are naive.
11/13/2018 09:27 PMPosted by IgotsoulIf you trust the devs to implement sharding just at the start you are naive.
Lets assume why don't we. You have no valid point.
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Sharding doesn't solve the problem it's supposed to fix. Yeah looking at your video, it's a !@#$ show. But guess what. When you shard all those people off and they all get their starting zone done. And they all end up in the next zone together. Back to that flood people that make doing anything difficult. What then? Shard the 10-20 zones? Or say just deal with it?
If your answer is just deal with it? Why shard the starting zones? Just get people to deal with it.
If you answer is to shard the 10-20 zones, where does the sharding stop?
If your answer is just deal with it? Why shard the starting zones? Just get people to deal with it.
If you answer is to shard the 10-20 zones, where does the sharding stop?
11/13/2018 09:30 PMPosted by VelossenaSharding doesn't solve the problem it's supposed to fix. Yeah looking at your video, it's a !@#$ show. But guess what. When you shard all those people off and they all get their starting zone done. And they all end up in the next zone together. Back to that flood people that make doing anything difficult. What then? Shard the 10-20 zones? Or say just deal with it?
If your answer is just deal with it? Why shard the starting zones? Just get people to deal with it.
If you answer is to shard the 10-20 zones, where does the sharding stop?
Yes but spreading the masses out is what blizzard is trying to do with sharding because everyone will start in the same points on the map. Also I'm sure 1-10 isn't going to hurt your experience. I believe blizzard and I know blizzard understands what the classic community wants.. They also know how we feel on this. 2 weeks is noting. Not even considered change. To assume is something a liberal would do.
It's a completely valid concern. The issue that sharding seeks to resolve does not occur solely at launch, but repeats with increasing frequency in relation to the health of the server community. If the devs are saying that sharding is their first solution to crowding, there's no way they won't bring it back out again when future issues arise.11/13/2018 09:27 PMPosted by Plewtoe11/13/2018 09:27 PMPosted by IgotsoulIf you trust the devs to implement sharding just at the start you are naive.
Lets assume why don't we. You have no valid point.
And lets be real here: We're talking about a company that's so absolutely certain you'll buy whatever !@#$ sunday they serve up that the next major Diablo title (and the main announcement at Blizzcon) is a mobile re-skin.
11/13/2018 09:34 PMPosted by Plewtoe11/13/2018 09:30 PMPosted by VelossenaSharding doesn't solve the problem it's supposed to fix. Yeah looking at your video, it's a !@#$ show. But guess what. When you shard all those people off and they all get their starting zone done. And they all end up in the next zone together. Back to that flood people that make doing anything difficult. What then? Shard the 10-20 zones? Or say just deal with it?
If your answer is just deal with it? Why shard the starting zones? Just get people to deal with it.
If you answer is to shard the 10-20 zones, where does the sharding stop?
Yes but spreading the masses out is what blizzard is trying to do with sharding because everyone will start in the same points on the map. Also I'm sure 1-10 isn't going to hurt your experience. I believe blizzard and I know blizzard understands what the classic community wants.. They also know how we feel on this. 2 weeks is noting. Not even considered change. To assume is something a liberal would do.
Your words are what a rational emotionally balanced individual would say. There are many irrational and emotionally inbalanced individuals on the classic board. Its best to avoid them. There are plenty of nice people who you'll be able to have great discussions about classic. But the weird ones? I wouldn't worry about them.
11/13/2018 09:34 PMPosted by Plewtoe11/13/2018 09:30 PMPosted by VelossenaSharding doesn't solve the problem it's supposed to fix. Yeah looking at your video, it's a !@#$ show. But guess what. When you shard all those people off and they all get their starting zone done. And they all end up in the next zone together. Back to that flood people that make doing anything difficult. What then? Shard the 10-20 zones? Or say just deal with it?
If your answer is just deal with it? Why shard the starting zones? Just get people to deal with it.
If you answer is to shard the 10-20 zones, where does the sharding stop?
Yes but spreading the masses out is what blizzard is trying to do with sharding because everyone will start in the same points on the map. Also I'm sure 1-10 isn't going to hurt your experience. I believe blizzard and I know blizzard understands what the classic community wants.. They also know how we feel on this. 2 weeks is noting. Not even considered change. To assume is something a liberal would do.
Sharding doesn't spread the masses out in the way you think it does. Yeah, it puts them in different shards and lets everything run smoothly. But they're all in the same zone able to go roughly the same pace. Sure, you're going to have people ahead of and behind the main pack, but the main pack is going to hit that 10-20 like a tsunami and it's going to be the !@#$ show in your video only in a different zone.
11/13/2018 09:36 PMPosted by Lokubi11/13/2018 09:34 PMPosted by Plewtoe...
Yes but spreading the masses out is what blizzard is trying to do with sharding because everyone will start in the same points on the map. Also I'm sure 1-10 isn't going to hurt your experience. I believe blizzard and I know blizzard understands what the classic community wants.. They also know how we feel on this. 2 weeks is noting. Not even considered change. To assume is something a liberal would do.
Your words are what a rational emotionally balanced individual would say. There are many irrational and emotionally inbalanced individuals on the classic board. Its best to avoid them. There are plenty of nice people who you'll be able to have great discussions about classic. But the weird ones? I wouldn't worry about them.
So your solution to people who disagree with you is to call them crazy. I'm convinced. I am totally pro-sharding now...
#sarcasm.
11/13/2018 09:39 PMPosted by Velossena11/13/2018 09:36 PMPosted by Lokubi...
Your words are what a rational emotionally balanced individual would say. There are many irrational and emotionally inbalanced individuals on the classic board. Its best to avoid them. There are plenty of nice people who you'll be able to have great discussions about classic. But the weird ones? I wouldn't worry about them.
So your solution to people who disagree with you is to call them crazy. I'm convinced. I am totally pro-sharding now...
#sarcasm.
Im pretty sure that means liberals assume not that they're crazy.... This community is unstable ahahahah.
11/13/2018 09:39 PMPosted by Velossena
So your solution to people who disagree with you is to call them crazy. I'm convinced. I am totally pro-sharding now...
#sarcasm.
Of COURSE you are. When Classic releases and you roll you class and start having fun, you aren't going to consider sharding at all. You're going to be enjoying the game.
If of course tons of people pour in like everyone wants, and the servers disconnect people, queues go for hours, and people's time taken off of work is wasted, people won't have fun.
The focus and drama over the inconsequential is pointless, and thus crazy. =P
11/13/2018 09:34 PMPosted by Plewtoe11/13/2018 09:30 PMPosted by VelossenaSharding doesn't solve the problem it's supposed to fix. Yeah looking at your video, it's a !@#$ show. But guess what. When you shard all those people off and they all get their starting zone done. And they all end up in the next zone together. Back to that flood people that make doing anything difficult. What then? Shard the 10-20 zones? Or say just deal with it?
If your answer is just deal with it? Why shard the starting zones? Just get people to deal with it.
If you answer is to shard the 10-20 zones, where does the sharding stop?
Yes but spreading the masses out is what blizzard is trying to do with sharding because everyone will start in the same points on the map. Also I'm sure 1-10 isn't going to hurt your experience. I believe blizzard and I know blizzard understands what the classic community wants.. They also know how we feel on this. 2 weeks is noting. Not even considered change. To assume is something a liberal would do.
What happens when nearly every horde character is out of their starting zone and in The Barrens? Yeah there will be a bunch of undead in Silverpine but even they will eventually move to The Barrens and for every other horde race it's a waste of time to go over to Silverpine.
The easy answer is use sharding but then they are sharding people during one of the most memorable experiences for a lot of community. And you can't tell me The Barrens isn't one of the most iconic areas in WoW.
@ OP, because sharding is cancer. It's so bad that it's on the same level of terrible that WoD, Legion, and BFA class designs are.
11/13/2018 09:45 PMPosted by Lokubi11/13/2018 09:39 PMPosted by Velossena
So your solution to people who disagree with you is to call them crazy. I'm convinced. I am totally pro-sharding now...
#sarcasm.
Of COURSE you are. When Classic releases and you roll you class and start having fun, you aren't going to consider sharding at all. You're going to be enjoying the game.
If of course tons of people pour in like everyone wants, and the servers disconnect people, queues go for hours, and people's time taken off of work is wasted, people won't have fun.
The focus and drama over the inconsequential is pointless, and thus crazy. =P
You wont enjoy anything in a server queue or crashed servers. Conversation over, I hope sharding doesn't happen. That way when you're not playing and all butt hurt about it, I'll be remembering you =)
Because we know that's what you all will be doing. Complaining about sharding then complaining the servers are down, Then you'll complain about the 5000 person queue that's taking 36 hours for you to log in. Then you'll quit because it's to hard for you and you'll be right back into BfA complaining all over again.
11/13/2018 09:27 PMPosted by Plewtoe11/13/2018 09:27 PMPosted by IgotsoulIf you trust the devs to implement sharding just at the start you are naive.
Lets assume why don't we. You have no valid point.
What they did in the past not good enough?
Well then what about the latest fiasco?
not good enough, then you are too trust worthy
Oh can I have some money, my sub ran out and I'm broke QQ
11/13/2018 09:25 PMPosted by PlewtoeWhy do people make such a big deal over sharding the STARTING zones for 2 weeks?
1) People do not trust that it will only be the beginning 2 weeks.
2) Many people want the "authentic" vanilla opening.
3) Some people (I do not agree here) believe that having it at launch will automatically kill the server(s).
11/13/2018 09:44 PMPosted by Plewtoe11/13/2018 09:39 PMPosted by Velossena...
So your solution to people who disagree with you is to call them crazy. I'm convinced. I am totally pro-sharding now...
#sarcasm.
Im pretty sure that means liberals assume not that they're crazy.... This community is unstable ahahahah.
Of that, there is no doubt.
But I am perfectly willing to have a reasonable, rational debate over the pros and cons of sharding. I'm trying to not just copy paste word for word everything I've said on the top in several different threads. I mean I could, but I'm pretty sure people would notice and just ignore it on account of laziness.
11/13/2018 09:45 PMPosted by Lokubi11/13/2018 09:39 PMPosted by Velossena
So your solution to people who disagree with you is to call them crazy. I'm convinced. I am totally pro-sharding now...
#sarcasm.
Of COURSE you are. When Classic releases and you roll you class and start having fun, you aren't going to consider sharding at all. You're going to be enjoying the game.
If of course tons of people pour in like everyone wants, and the servers disconnect people, queues go for hours, and people's time taken off of work is wasted, people won't have fun.
The focus and drama over the inconsequential is pointless, and thus crazy. =P
If you think myself or other people aren't going to notice that sharding is in the game and the effect it will have, you are the one who is crazy. As I've stated before, if sharding is in the starting zones it'll never be taken out, and that ruins the community aspect of Classic.
On top of that it doesn't spread people out and you're going to have hundred of people descend on the 10-20 zones at roughly the same time, making everything laggy, hard to play, and cause a massive fight over resources. Blizz will just keep sharding zone after zone until the whole game is sharded.
If your answer is at 10-20, people can just suck it up and deal with the lag and the fight or resources, why do we need sharding in the starting zones?
If your answer is shard the 10-20 zones, where do you draw the line on sharding?
And lets be honest. If the server can't hand 400 people in a zone, the average number people per starting zone on a 2.5k server cap, what's going to happen when AQ opens. Using math I did earlier for simplicity. Say 70% of the people on the server at any given time are level 60 when AQ opens. That's 1750 people. Say half of those people go to the AQ event. That's 875 people in 1 zone. More then double the average people in the starting zones at launch.
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Lets assume why don't we. You have no valid point.
What they did in the past not good enough?
Well then what about the latest fiasco?
not good enough, then you are too trust worthy
Oh can I have some money, my sub ran out and I'm broke QQ
What they did in the past not good enough? What they did in the past has nothing to do with right now and classic, Blizzard didn't ask for your opinion when they started to shard. They didn't ask anyone. They even said at blizzcon that they knew how the community felt about it before Ion even spoke about it. Explain how it's the same because I don't get it.
Well then what about the latest fiasco? BfA? Still has nothing to do with classic.
not good enough, then you are too trust worthy Because they said they wouldn't do it beyond starting zones, They also said they were looking into other options. It's not like blizzard went behind your back and did sharding in live lol.
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Im pretty sure that means liberals assume not that they're crazy.... This community is unstable ahahahah.
Of that, there is no doubt.
But I am perfectly willing to have a reasonable, rational debate over the pros and cons of sharding. I'm trying to not just copy paste word for word everything I've said on the top in several different threads. I mean I could, but I'm pretty sure people would notice and just ignore it on account of laziness.<span class="truncated">...</span>
Of COURSE you are. When Classic releases and you roll you class and start having fun, you aren't going to consider sharding at all. You're going to be enjoying the game.
If of course tons of people pour in like everyone wants, and the servers disconnect people, queues go for hours, and people's time taken off of work is wasted, people won't have fun.
The focus and drama over the inconsequential is pointless, and thus crazy. =P
If you think myself or other people aren't going to notice that sharding is in the game and the effect it will have, you are the one who is crazy. As I've stated before, if sharding is in the starting zones it'll never be taken out, and that ruins the community aspect of Classic.
On top of that it doesn't spread people out and you're going to have hundred of people descend on the 10-20 zones at roughly the same time, making everything laggy, hard to play, and cause a massive fight over resources. Blizz will just keep sharding zone after zone until the whole game is sharded.
If your answer is at 10-20, people can just suck it up and deal with the lag and the fight or resources, why do we need sharding in the starting zones?
If your answer is shard the 10-20 zones, where do you draw the line on sharding?
And lets be honest. If the server can't hand 400 people in a zone, the average number people per starting zone on a 2.5k server cap, what's going to happen when AQ opens. Using math I did earlier for simplicity. Say 70% of the people on the server at any given time are level 60 when AQ opens. That's 1750 people. Say half of those people go to the AQ event. That's 875 people in 1 zone. More then double the average people in the starting zones at launch.
It's not about how many people. It's about how many are standing in the same spot. Blizzard already said population isn't even a problem so I don't know why everyone is talking about it like they know what they're talking about. You know single servers 14 years ago held more than what you're talking about. Blizzard can hold 10k with 0 problems.