Quick question to... the moggers I guess

Did Blizzard ever put dual crossbows or dual guns into the game yet, or are they still being lame?

Theyre still lame, by your definition

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play diablo 3

EDIT: actually, play Valla in HOTS because there’s no single viable build in D3 that uses dual-crossbow, even though that’s the entire class fantasy of Diablo’s Demon Hunter.

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The majority of offhand items still don’t sit on your hip, so I wouldn’t hold your breath about them adding a new animation set for ranged mog.

Do people still play HoTs?
Valla is genuinely fun in that game.

Well, that is disappointing to hear.

Apparently Lord Godfrey is the only one allowed to dual wield pistols.

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Well yeah, he’s a lord.

The player title of lord/lady don’t count. It’s a fake title. When we get the real one, we can dial wield pistols.

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i would love to get to dual wield pistols and hand crossbows in this game.

Til then at least i got diablo 3 and torchlight 2. Heck, not even my beloved FFXIV has dual pistols/hand crossbows.

They’re still being lame.

Why would you EVER do this when historical crossbows have such immense draw weight that tools like the windlass had to be invented to help reload them? Then I have to ask why you’d want to defeat the purpose by using tiny Ezio Auditore crossbows that lack any real battlefield punch. It’s not being lame to not have dual crossbows. It’s, surprisingly (considering this is Blizzard we’re talking about), understand how the weapon works. Dual guns, though? Not yet. Same with dual crossbows.

Yes, because this isn’t a fantasy world. That has magic… or races that are dozens of times stronger the real world humans. Nah… it just isn’t realistic. If I want to be a badass flippy hunter firing bolts are at my enemy. It is entirely viable.

… to be honest, that would probably fit a ranged rogue more… but the point stands.

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Think you missed my point. Tiny crossbows small enough to dual wield don’t really pack a ton of punch. Regular-sized crossbows would work better for pure damage. That said, you wouldn’t be a badass flippy hunter, you’d be someone who brought the wrong tools for the job and couldn’t hit the target hard enough even if you could aim while flipping around. Let’s dissect it a little more. You get two shots, then you have to spend all that time reloading. Even if you’re as strong as an Orc or a Tauren, you’d have to reload at unfeasible speeds, and then keep the bolts sitting where they could be fired all the while flipping around. Unless you’re spamming magical, guided bolts of pure energy, you aren’t really living up to the fantasy you described. In fact, now you resemble a Dragonball character that’s channeling energy over crossbows instead of just throwing it at people. You also resemble Wildstar’s gun and magic class, which runs into the same problem of being a Dragonball character with extra steps. Being a Dragonball character is viable, just not for WoW’s setting. It’s more at home in whatever shonen anime/manga series is hot off the press.

If we look at things further, to address your point about realism, Hunters do get a reloading animation and it helps keep things a touch more grounded, which is essential for suspension of disbelief. If you don’t have any grounding in reality for fantasy, it doesn’t read as much like a fantasy story. It instead reads like a realm with no rules and kills investment because it’s not relatable anymore.

If you want to be a badass flippy hunter, why not play Demon Hunter? They’re a little better equipped for the job. I get it if you don’t like the playstyle and/or can’t stand being an elf, though. Kinda kills the appeal for me too. Thought Draenei were getting rogues soon too, so you may get your fix yet if you roll Outlaw, though you won’t be dual-wielding pistols (you’ll still be using them, though).

Sucks to kill the fun like this, honestly. It’s pain when, the more you analyze something, the more the logistics stop adding up. I’d been working at writing fantasy and ran into terribly many problems similar to what we’re discussing. The questions pile up, and then it gets you thinking about just how much doesn’t actually work.