So I remember reading around on forums that people can stack resistance to reduce the amount of damage elemental abilities do, or in the molten cores case fire spells are completely useless.
My question as someone who never did classic is it possible to get the level of resistance fire elementals had in teh molten core and completely negte all fire or frost damage?
365 315 was the highest effective resistance, and it didn’t negate everything. Raid Bosses were considered to be “63” for the purposes of things like resistances, and skinning.
EDIT: Misremembered TBC not Vanilla on the value.
how much of a negation was it, 10% 20% etc?
Far more than that, but I can’t remember the actual reduction cap. And very rarely did anyone get near cap because it neutered all their other abilities. I’m sure someone can dig up the forumla.
come on ya vanilla junkies who cant wait for classic to fill up on nostalgia I know finding these numbers only gives you orgasmic pleasure!
Edit: I hope a mod doesn’t forum mute me for this…
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315 is the magic resist cap in vanilla. That is 75% magic damage reduction. You also had a high chance to resist spells all together, but i forgot what that full resist percentage was at 315.
I remember a FR tank used to normally resist the knockback on Ragnaros so it was an easy one tank fight with 315 FR.
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Yeah resistance was a bit wonky. There are 4 outcomes when it comes to resists.
- 25% resist
- 50% resist
- 75% resist
- full resist
The probability of each outcome was determined by your resistance value. For instance some one with 300+ resist might have a 10% chance to full resist, 20% chance for 75% resist, 25% chance for 50% resist and a 30% chance for a 25% resist (with the remainder being the chance for a normal hit).
I dont know the exact values but i bet it’s something you can Google relatively easily.
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I remember need 200+ Frost resistance on Naxxramas 40 men for Sapphiron.
I think 150+ Fire for Molten Core is enough. Can’t remember.
Didn’t RB level depend on the tier?
Your resistance is insignificant! throws everyone up in the air, wiping the raid with falling damage
They’re all Skull, but AFAIK they were considered 63 for the purposes of counting. Resistance cap of 315 (5 x 63).
A Skull (Boss) is a level 63 mob for the purposes of its combat table.
To add to the skull discussion, skull is always 3 levels above you, with a minimum level of 60. While this fun fact has no effect to people playing vanilla, it does mean that if you go fight Ragnaros on a level 120, his melee will hit you every time, and he can parry your attack you thought would one shot him. (rather than missing/glancing 99% of the time as a normal level 63 mob would)
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so ya fight him in the tunnel and then cant die from fall damage hehe
Also, fire spells were never useless in MC. From about the half-way point on, there was a lot of fire resistance, so you wouldn’t hit as hard, but it was really only the fire elementals and rag that were actually immune. From Garr on, a Fire mage CAN do more than frost, but it’s going to take significantly more aggressive playing. A good general rule is you can be fire until you kill gar, then switch to frost until you’re moving on beyond MC. Even a fire mage using frost spells will do respectable damage.
Nah, you run near the priest healer assigned to saving you with heals as you go up, and levitate as you go down.
wasn’t it that way only on private servers?
No idea. I’ve never raided on a private server.
I’m going off both my recollections as a Raid Leader helping tanks hit their marks, and the information I can look up about it on various sources. 365 was definitely the mark, and 315 was required for resistance and things like skinning The Beast, because it was a boss. You needed Finkle’s Skinner (+10) and a +5 skinning glove enchant.
So much misinformation here on such a simple topic. Resistance cap is 315 against a boss in vanilla wow (lvl 63).
To get there you want 255 unbuffed because a shaman totem or pally aura can get you to cap (315) from there.
If you are hardcore and do things like grind Juju Ember’s you only need 240 Fire Resist unbuffed to reach cap.
You can also get to 315 cap with other tricks like mind-controlling an early npc in UBRS to buff your friends with a sick FR buff.
You only need cap resistance (315) on your main tank for things like Rag, and eventually frost resist for Saph in Naxx. Resistance cap isn’t required to kill those bosses but that is the point where extra resistance does nothing for you anymore.
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Yeah thinking back I think 365 was me thinking of TBC. (73). I’ll go amend that.