I’m aware that exact dates in all likelihood don’t exist, but do we know roughly (like when relative to WC2, WC3, Vanilla, and Cata) these things happened?
Gilneas leaves the Alliance
The wall goes up
Crowley’s rebellion
The only frame of reference I have is that the rebellion had to happen after WC3 since Crowley was the one who sent the Gilneas Brigade with Jaina. But there’s still a few years between then and Cata - was it before vanilla? During vanilla? Only just before Cata? And Gilneas leaving and the wall going up I’m even less clear on.
No, that doesn’t say anything about the timeframes everything happened. it goes from talking about to Gilneas’s role in WC2 to “and in vanilla there was suddenly a big wall.” There’s like 20 years between those where it could have happened.
I’m asking like, did the wall already exist in WC3? Was it immediately after 2? Was it built between TFT and WoW?
The Greymane Wall was built between WC 2 and 3. While the orc internment camps were still a thing. Genn wanted Terenas to slaughter all the orcs, so Greymane got mad, pulled Gilneas from the alliance and than adopted isolationist policies.
It should be noted that while Darius was against the Graymane Wall, he didn’t rebel until Genn basically called him a traitor for sending those forces to aid Jaina. The Northgate rebellion happened between WC3 and vanilla WoW.
I didn’t know Darius ok’d the gilnean troops for the Kalimdor expedition.
I’ve often wondered how she got her army together as a mage of Dalaran. She doesn’t seem like she should really have that much political pull. Terenas had already rejected the prophet, was recalling armies from Northrend, while Stromgarde I think had withdrawn from the alliance.
Well, it arguably wasn’t just because of that either. The rebellion basically erupted not long after Genn’s use of the worgen led to Pyrewood and Shadowfang Keep being overrun when they ran amok, after those places had managed to hold out against the Scourge up to that point even while cut off from Gilneas. Abandoning so many of Crowley’s people already planted the seeds of anger and resentment in the first place, and reprimanding him over the Gilneas Brigade certainly didn’t help, but unleashing an army of wolf-men who proceeded to slaughter most of those people proved to be the last straw.
Rise of the Lich King added some info in that regard. Basically by the time the Scourge was marching on Dalaran, Antonidas had come around to realizing he should have listened to Medivh. While he still wasn’t willing to flee and save himself, he gave Jaina his endorsement to carry out the evacuation, so that may have lent her voice the weight needed to organize surviving pockets of Alliance resistance (besides those with Alexandros and Garithos) for departure while her being the Lord Admiral’s daughter gave her the clout to commandeer the Kul Tiran ships she needed to carry them to Kalimdor.
I saw a claim that Chronicle 3 says Genn left the Alliance and started the construction of the wall around years 15-18, at the same time Thrall was liberating the orc camps. Can someone with the book confirm?
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