Question on Trust Level 3

One thing I learned at university in my criminology courses, what they teach you is ONLY theories.

I don’t need a cheeseburger so why would I want to steal one. Likewise, I don’t need to break the rules so why would I go out of my way to do so just because I the penalty would have no impact.

This is true. And I don’t necessarily subscribe to the one I outlined. However, when you’re in the position where you have to impose penalties and deterrents, you more or less have to lean in one direction.

No-one ever really needs a cheeseburger. You could replace it with any item of value to you. The point is that it represents indulgence.

I don’t need anything though and if I needed something it wouldn’t make any difference if there were a penalty or not.

But why keep my thoughts to myself, when I’ve already been punished for wrong thinking when there’s no way to earn my way up through the hierarchy again for right thinking?

Trust Level 3 started out as wonderful and I felt proud of myself, that I was one of the ‘good kids’ but now I’m one of the bad kids again, with no way to be good again, I’m like…well I will just express myself openly without worrying too much if some minor joke is going to offend someone or not.

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So you’re saying that the only people who break the rules are people who actually need things? So you subscribe to the theory that all crime is based on desperation?

Having a filter helps.

I subscribe to the theory that people think and react differently and that there is no such thing as fair penalties and one size fits all deterrence system.

The only filter I have is what is black and white imposed, I will either accept the rules or bugger off to some other place where I feel more free.

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Private server. They can do what ever they want.

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This is how I think a large number of people feel once they lose that T3 trust level, i.e. freedom.

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1950s song, but the Lyrics are still very relevant today. :slight_smile:

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There was definitely an element of that yeah. I admit if I still had Trust Level 3, I wouldn’t have been saying the crap I did about China when that thing happened before blizzcon.

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That’s not actually true. Action is sometimes taken on things that don’t explicitly break the CoC and sometimes is applied disproportionately within even a single exchange due to one person getting flag-jumped by their conversational opponent’s friends while the other doesn’t feel the need to flag at all.

GD is wack, yo.

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You’re right but some people will defend blizzard to the death. I just quit talking with them.

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They can accuse me all they wish, the only question that faces me; is which wolf I choose to feed.

To be honest, I have no idea what my trust level is. Probably low since I had someone follow me around flagging posts for awhile.

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You are at level 2

I agree with that, but I also think that the system you design needs to be able to catch as many of the bad actors as possible. If a good portion of deviant behavior occurs because it feels good to be indulgent, then you have to discourage that indulgence.

When people make threads like “Sylvanas is just like Trump,” why do you think they do that? Why do trolls do anything? Because it feels good to cause a scene, incite chaos, and feel like they were important enough to be responsible for it. Not because they need that recognition, but because it excites them on a superficial level.

So while you are a morally upstanding individual who would not steal the cheeseburger because you respect the laws that are in place and because you would not want to inconvenience the person you are stealing from, the person behind you would steal it just because he wants to see society burn down.

A law that discourages him from his chaos might also inconvenience you, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that the law itself has no right to exist.

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Are you calling me a duck? WOWOW bold move coming from a wyrmst accord fella.

Jk :joy: LOL! I love it! For real I think arguing online is silly of its own. Discussing is one thing, like we’re doing here! But just throwing mud and sticks does nuffin but hurt feelings.

Big true! The new forums has let us see this happen live.

I saw a thread critiquing blizzard today on something small, but as I was responding, it got nuked with a 404. Didn’t see any swears or any threats, and it was related to wow.

That’s why I’m always weary on writing a post just for fun, it just doesn’t seem worth it ;( I was going to start a series of threads whenever a new AR came out, and it’s me orcifying them. My original did well! But that was on the old forums.

Feels like that rush song sometimes “conform or be casted out”. GD has always been like this tho, I just wish there was a forum section called “unpopular opinions” where it’s a bit safer to share different ideas that go against the grain.

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Well that’s not bad. That means despite my pro-China rantings, it wasn’t enough to kick me down a peg.