Question on soft reserve systems

should items that are “hard res’d” or “prio’d” be known before hand?

I have been in a guild that uses this soft res system, but many items that are hard res’d or prio’d are not known beforehand. So if you select a soft res on an item and loot council decides to give it to someone else, you are out a roll on an item for that raid.

normal? working as intended?

sounds shady af

any run that uses hard res has to declare it beforehand, normally works as such:

Hard res or Prio, then soft res, then MS, then OS

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Loot systems should be extremely transparent to avoid drama.

Any loot system that is not transparent is probably shady

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Yeah that’s definitely shady af.

What does soft res mean? Sincere question.

Should be transparent. Absolutely everyone should be aware of what’s reserved beforehand. It avoids salt/drama and is more fair for everyone involved.

Never heard it using this wording but my assumption - since I don’t know 100% - is it’s reserved for [insert name here] if they’re present otherwise it’s treated like normal loot.

I’m probably wrong, though… it’s definitely a strange term, that’s for sure.

A “soft reserve” aka soft res is a type of loot system designed to reduce rolls and competition for items.

Basically what people do is create a spreadsheet of items that drop from the raid, BEFORE the raid starts. Before the first pull, that spreadsheet is locked. Every raid member can “reserve” 1 item. If that item drops, only people who have reserved that item can roll on it.

Theoretically it’s suppose to help reduce the RNG by letting people be selective of how they spend their lockout with a given raid composition.

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I see. Thanks!

Any reservations should be made clear before hand.

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Loot rules should be stated beforehand, and everything should be known before people step into the raid. Period. Whether it is MS>OS, loot council, DKP, GDKP, soft reserve, priority, hard reserve, or whatever, the loot rules should be known beforehand. Anyone who doesn’t do this isn’t a guild you want to run with.

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Basically a soft rez is the same as a hard rez except there are multiple people rezing the item. If the item drops they use a system to choose who gets it among them, for example they may roll off for it.

You typically get a limited number of soft rez chances and there may be limited sort rez spots per item. For example, you might be able to soft rez two items or the first five people to soft rez a Zin’rokh are the only people who can roll on it.

And yeah, it should all be declared and open from the start. Screenshot the loot rules to have a record if you think it might be shady. Or just find a better group.

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Sounds like you got shafted.

I never understood this argument for reducing RNG because with SR you have to bear 3 RNG loot systems instead of just 2 (Make sure you SR correct item, item drops, roll off against others) vs (item dropped and rolls). Sr can def be good but the fact there’s so many ppl fighting over the same like 3 pieces sucks. Tier should never be SRed imo

Having both a soft reserve and loot council system seems strange to me. There should be no need for soft reserves if the loot council decides who the loot goes to. If this was just a one time thing and normally you roll for the items you got screwed, they should probably have let you soft reserve something else if you didn’t even get to roll for the item you reserved.

If there’s a loot council, then the guild DOESN’T use soft res. Loot council trumps everything.

All hard reserved items should be mentioned on the soft reserve form but really if you are a PUG you should just accept your aren’t getting the top tier items (Mounts, eye of sulf, bindings, rejuv gem etc).