Welp, didn’t know about that i was thinking likes were account tied as i only use this character for the forums.
So the like ratio is even less reliable than i thought it was lol.
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Everything is a lie, even the classic dream!
Not everything is a lie.
There is one true constant in life.
CHEESE! (According to sheagorath at least)
I suppose you can’t prove any of that. Just setting moveable goalposts without actually providing any counter evidence yourself. BTW 28k is pretty relevant when you have zero polls of nobody.
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Blizzard is betting that people will suck it up and play anyhow.
I feel a lot of folks will be surprised when they realise there is no RDF. Most folks don’t keep up with this stuff, and go to the forums, Reddit etc. There’ll be a surge of players at launch and it’ll drop off when they realise that this isn’t the Wrath they remember.
The target audience for this version of Wrath are people who want to raid log, just like TBC and Retail.
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dungeon finder needs to be in at launch.
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Unfortunately, you aren’t going to convince some of these sea lions. They’ll just come back with the same circular logic and arguments.
Yeah. Sea Lions.
I mean if he had reliable data i would listen to it.
Open vote straw polls however are not a good source of data. Its similar to the reason schools did not allow Wikipedia as a reference for projects. Its easy for someone to edit/distort the information on it to not even be remotely accurate.
Define realiable.
You stated that every poll is false and cannot be trusted.
What exactly are you looking for here?
For Blizzard to send out a questionnaire to every Bnet account/email? Some of us have multiple accounts.
So, please, tell me.
You got a poll from wowlogs with 25k votes.
You got a poll from a big Youtuber with 28k votes.
You aren’t happy with either. There is no point in having this conversation with you. You don’t even know what you want, nor you don’t have anything to back your theory that more people don’t want RDF. You’re a prime definition of internet karen.
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You’re delusional if you think the overwhelming majority is against it and not for it. I believe the polls are closer to the truth than what Blizz says about “we listened to the community”. They obviosly dont listen, they slap the community in the face. The community ( MAJORITY) want the original and not the retail version. If you dont believe the polls, show me polls going the other way. Lets see em.
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Its better than the poll blizzard posted.
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Im not claiming the majority is for or agaist it.
I am pointing out the data being used to show the majority is for rdf is bad data at best because of how easily it can be manipulated by ANYONE that choses to do so.
Its not a reliable data source in any way shape or form.
Its a million times better than the data source that Blizz is showing us as to why they arent going with it. Thats the point. Show me data that says otherwise.
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I was so excited to play WOLTK, but after this no LFG thing, I’m not playing it.
I understand people who don’t want it might have guilds or friends playing, but for those who play solo, like me, it’s a bummer trying to find a group in between all these GDKP and boost chats…
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Something that cannot be easily circumvented to have false data by any of the participants would be a start.
The problem with the polls presented is they are all very easy to vote multiple times on to the point its not outside of the possibility that a lot of the votes coukd have come from one person with a bot program. It is unfortunately one of the reasons open polls that dont have a strong preventative for multi voting are not a good way to gather data.
Lets say you live in an HoA and each address in the HoA gets one vote toward if they add a pool to the HoA shared space or a kids play park for the available space. Sounds fair right? Now we look a little deeper. A rich older gentleman owns 40% of the addresses and by those rules his vote heavily skew the results and doesnt actually give a good representation of what the majority of the members if the HoA want but instead gives more of a the view if what the old man wants. Its a flawed system if the goal is to get the majority of individuals views because someone is able to vote far more than others.
Like what?
I need examples.
They’ve all been reliable, it’s pretty silly to think that people are going hardcore hacker just to show they like LFD.
For one thing they don’t need to since the majority of people actually want LFD.
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RDF was in for half the expansion. They are using patch 3.35. RDF came out 3.3
If they want to add in post 3.3 changes, why not RDF?
- To sell boosts
- To save time on making RDF work with new client
They’ll add it in later, letting hype die down when boost sales also die down. This is exactly what they plan to do, mark my words, then they’ll say “we listened to the community”. Every question on their surveys revolves around maximizing cash shop sales and gauging community tolerance for those sales. We aren’t getting RDF at launch purely to maximize their sales.
LOL no you wouldn’t. You would just move the goal posts. 50k isnt enough. 100k isnt enough, 200k, well, people obviously voted a bunch of times. Meanwhile, your side has no data.
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And we all know that attacking the source is not a counter argument. So please, everybody stop and read this. Poisoning the well is a logical fallacy. If you disagree, provide counter evidence. That is literally how things work. It is really that easy. Attacking data (where the other side could also vote multiple times) is just simple nonsense. Just admit that it is you personal opinion, and move on. Also, don’t hide behind “well I am not claiming that the majority supports it or doesn’t” nonsense. You clearly are implying the majority doesn’t support it, that is why you are attacking the data. This is all so painful to watch.
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