Question about Arms and Disc

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They are two classes i want to play the most but i struggle.

I play for fun on the casual side of the game only really using LFG and no voice. The highest rating i have been is 1900 something

I would prefer to gear up and play Arms and/or disc but im facing these problems and im not sure if it would be worth it to put in the time and effort of gearing if i would experience the same issues at a higher ilvl

  • Arms i feel like i do hardly any dmg, even in a bladestorm, and I can just be melted by 2 dps. Im used to being a target and ganged up on but in the past i could normally chunk at least 1 enemies health down enough to get the execute and victory rush proc and keep plowing through ppl till im eventually taken down. Now i just feel so weak and helpless.

  • Disc I love and generally have fun playing but vs classes like dh, uh, sin, surv, rets I feel my death is inevitable. I can last for a while and feel somewhat ok but am never able to do anything offensively and my mana depletes too fast to really feel like im anything more than a useless punching bag.

Both my characters are just over 390 ilvl.

I guess my question would be if Arms gets significantly tankier and hits harder with like 405+ilvl.

Does Disc have a chance vs said melee

Any help would b cool.

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the game doesnt even start until 410 ilvl with BiS traits and ideally 415 azerite pieces

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Right, thats why i am asking…

Do you as a mage at ur lvl have difficulty with Arms wars or discs? When you are facing them are you generally confident the war will die and u can somewhat facetank his dmg?
Are disc priests capable of keeping up with your dmg output or are u confident u will crush him ?

If the answer is that arms wars can be devastating up close and you must stay away then thats a reason for me to invest time.

If the answer is yes discs at a higher lvl can perform well and not just get obliterated then thats a reason to invest time

idk why it changed my char

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Need op phat gear to be somewhat viable.

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Arms has the worst survivability of any class in the game.

  • No self healing
  • Less damage reduction than even Legion
  • Low escape mechanisms
  • Armor is borderline useless this xpac

Damage wise, some of the essences might help arms but overall the class gets damage based on bleeds rather than direct damage. PVE numbers in larger packs can look really nice with correct traits but PVP not as nice.

Disc… I’m not sure how the essences will play out for disc yet.

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Idk if disc war is bad I fought disc war in 2s and lost and the war took 0 dmg cuz all he did was sit dstance and train my healer and won.

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?.10.chars

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Almost everythig is magic damage and ignores armor.

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I mean them seperately in all aspects of pvp, not fighting disc/arms in 2s

But thats good to know.

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White attacks are a really large part of melee dmg this xpac. Did you see what happened to locks after they got demon armor?

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Idk ive been playing my war a little bit and it plays like a glass cannon unless i just sit in dstance, which most games im forced to do. I will say that in 3s, i feel super helpful with cooldowns like shout, war banner, disarm, sharpen. I dont usually feel like im contributing a ton to damage(playing with a dh so big shocker) but i will say the peels and sharpen definitely seem to win games a lot for us.

I know you said youre yolo queuing but i would highly recommend voice, being able to comm with a healer on what to press will turn your whole team into tanks i swear

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Lock also have other damage reduction and HP buff during the demon armor upgrade. Your point is valid, white damage matters but if that were the case then fury warriors (most white damage) would mow down locks.