Is WoW’s dark and gritty story in the room with us right now? Go log onto classic and try and tell me Dragonflight or The War Within are darker and grittier than Tirisfal Glades.
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Yes.
Arguing otherwise is just trolling. I’ll give you credit for knowing what progressive means in context, I didn’t expect that much from you, but you’re just throwing a bunch of nonsense at the wall to see what sticks.
Every arc requires escalation, because it is told through a medium in which you are constantly improving.
“You’re just trolling” Uhh no. Nice job not even addressing what I said. I’d love to hear how you think Dragonflight’s villains are higher scale than Sargeras is, though.
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Not talking about wow specifically, just media in general. The fact that I even have to clarify such a thing to a grown adult is…
What, this?
Where you unwittingly admit I’m right?
The treadmill is incremental increase for time investment.
Half of the quests in Vanilla are some villain duping you into doing their dirty work because they offered you some silver and a random pair of underwear with slightly less terrible stats than your last pair of underwear that you’ve been wearing for 20 levels
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We’re on a WoW forum, talking about WoW’s story. The assumption people are going to have is that we’re discussing WoW. The fact that I even have to clarify such a thing to a grown adult is…
No. There is no increase in player power nowadays. We are at the same scale of power we’ve been since the artifacts were burned out at the end of Legion. There’s nothing about WoW’s story that requires an increase in scale because nobody who seriously examines WoW’s current gameplay model can say you ever feel stronger than the previous expanion.
You don’t even outlevel zones anymore until you move on to the next expansion. Quit trolling.
But you’re not trolling?
“I never read quest text in vanilla so I’m just going to say some nonsense as a counter argument”
I hope to god you people get paid to deflect criticism. If you do it for free, that’s just sad.
Aww, I always find it so adorable when people copy what i say. Imitation is the highest form of flattery, after all.
But since I’m feeling generous (and mildly bored), I’ll elaborate. OP said that his complaint was not solely about wow and that is what I was adding upon. Hope this helps 
You seriously think nerubians underneath some island are stronger than demons that have conquered most of the universe? Because they aren’t.
You’re still speaking in a context where most people would assume you’re talking about WoW primarily because you didn’t clarify. The fact that you got so defensive over it shows how insecure you are. Grow up.
“Classic” exists if you prefer the questing and storytelling of that era.
Like you, O ancient one?
“I want new stories that are as good as the old stories.”
“Just play the old stories durrr”
Nah. I want Blizzard to put out something other than mediocre slop. And you’re going to put up with people criticising them until they do.
Age is irrelevant to your immaturity.
Which ones, the ones empowered by the being that N’zoth had to bargain with, presumed to be a herald for a void lord?
Hopefully you’re not talking about the demons that didn’t actually manage to conquer most of the universe, nor the ones that narratively got tied to the Jailer by proxy to justify his existence.
Do you know what’s funniest about this interaction? Your presumptions excuse poor writing more than my statements have. WoW’s writing has never been phenomenal. You liked the grass roots of WoW? Great, I’m happy for you - plenty of games did better. Hell, my friend’s first time DMing D&D did a better job.
Actually they were better
The developers have completely lost any edge in favor of making everyone and everything “nice” and inclusive
Undead used to have a city that would torture people and experiment on them and you would hear women prisoners crying while walking around UC
Now UC is gone and all undead are now nice people with emotions and all good intentions
Villains are also usually nice , if they genocide or destroy others it’s usually “for a good cause” like how Wrarhion created a time divergence causing a hunger war but then it was explained that we “needed that war to prepare for the legion” like wtf is that logic lmao
Silvanas was worse than Arthas and WAY worse than someone like Ansurek yet she just get banished while the others get no mercy for no reasons
We are never allowed to do anything questionable like getting ingredients to test some bio weapon on prisoners like we could in vanilla and just the entire world and franchise feels like a Disney and Netflix made game than a blizzard game.
All their games like StarCraft , Warcraft etc used to have very dark elements but now it’s just about killing stuff but always with some “good cause “ with almost no morally grey or ominous type of storylines
I was playing classic earlier this month and totally forgot how much darker that world felt compared to modern wow
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The Nerubians are empowered by C’thun’s blood, actually. You know, the guy we killed in Vanilla. That’s where they’re power boost comes from, not Xal’atath herself.
And yes, the Demons very much did conquer most of the universe. Multiple lore moments say this.
Do try to at least know what you’re talking about before spouting off, lmao.
Oh, and as bad as Warcraft can be, I’m sure it’s better than whatever mediocre nonsense your unnamed, but probably talentless friend spewed out as a DnD campaign.
Good lord what crawled up your rear end and died?
Also, the Embalmer. The black dragonflight molt. Arguably the Defias. Hakkar’s egg. Hell, pretty much the events of BRD and Molten Core just set up for Blackwing to take over the rest of the mountain. You’re the one not reading quests if you think us helping the bad guys isn’t a common trope in Vanilla quests
So, three quests out of hundreds. Good job, lmao.