This post is a general question / ask for reform on the Blizzard Policy of not being able to give players quest items/replacement ones when the wrong one was selected. For blizzard employees you can see my ticket request (97867579) on this matter. The reason given is “we’re unable to facilitate a direct swap.” Which sounds fishy to me as GMs can populate any item in the game and when accounts are hacked with items sold / mailed to other corrupt accounts restoring those items isn’t an issue (outside the online restoration system).
We can already request items that we have sold or deleted for whatever reason. Why can we not replace quest items? This logically seems like it should fall under the same principle and it is controlled the Game Masters so the system shouldn’t be able to be taken advantage of.
My request comes from when I first started playing Classic WoW Era Vanilla again. The current character I am playing is a warrior. Warriors have the very pivotal quest chain “Voodoo Feathers” which gives them the 3 very strong items for classic WoW–however only one of them is truly strong. At the time I saw the first selection of the helmet and was in desperate need for hit and so I choose that one. However, to my undisclosed information 8-12 levels or through extensive research on internet websites (remind you, just for a single quest) I would have found… that there is ONLY one reward you go for in this quest chain which is Diamond Flask. Due to its ability to heal the user on a 1:1 ratio and the 75 strength which just scales amazingly for warriors. But, I am now never going to get that item.
So here I am with over 50 days game play, 1 binding short of TF, and full 40 man raid items. I will never be able to get this trinket because I made the mental mistake of not doing enough research prior to excepting a singular quest reward.
The GM from my support ticket was very nice and I am pleased with their professionalism. But, ultimately told me that since there is no immediate solution, workaround, or help from higher authority I am SOL. This feels like a lie because you see GMs in the game today you see them in SoD tanking the P2 PVP boss in STV. We all know GMs have the ability to import any item in the game as well…but I am beginning to digress.
The only negative I could see from allowing this is extorting the game for money by repeating a quest over and over. But, again why not run it like the item restoration system and only do this once a month or something?
So in the end? What is wrong with allowing players to swap quest items for quests that they have completed? If gold inflation is a serious worry (in the ticket I said I would give 1000g) there could be some type of payment option as well to not manipulate the system as a way of bot farming.
Your account wasn’t stolen, and restoring an item you deleted returns that exact same item.
You made a choice and used the helmet because you needed hit and only after you were done with the helmet you regretted your decision and now want a different reward from the quest.
I assume this is where the disconnect is between the other means of gaining an item back and your situation. Allowing you to change a reward from how many days or months ago for a new one later on sets a precedent that any reward can then be changed once the player is done with the current and wants a different one. It’s a dangerous and frankly dumb route to go down. At that point every quest should just reward every possible reward then as a better solution than waiting for players to tire of their current reward and request a new one.
I understand you have a deep attachment to your character, so suggesting a reroll and relevel for the trinket is out of the question, so really, you’re SOL. It just kind of is what it is.
The bolded is important because it is not anywhere close to being the same as not doing your research of a quest reward choice that has been solved and documented for almost 20 years. What Blizz offers in SoD to switch a quest reward trinket for gold isn’t germane to a conversation regarding Era.
I’m sorry that you didn’t take a few minutes before choosing your quest reward to check on the optimal for you reward. It’s a hard lesson to learn but buying your way back isn’t the answer either. I’m fine with Blizzard not switching.
As far as I know, this isn’t a matter of GMs being physically unable to give you an item and take another away but a matter of policy in that quest rewards are a lasting decision each player has to make and they aren’t supposed to undo the decision you made in regards to a quest reward unless there was a bug involved.
While I’m no blizzard GM it seems reasonable to assume that their policy regarding quests is an older one and item restoration as an automated service is new and didn’t necessarily change policy elsewhere as to what a GM is supposed to do.
But there is an in game suggestion tab somewhere in the menu, maybe toward the same like that leads to automated services, you’re free to suggest there that the policy regarding quests change, supposedly someone reads it, I mean I suggested in wotlk classic not to nerf Ulduar when the next tier came out and Ulduar didn’t get nerfed
Exactly my point as well. What’s wrong with swapping items like this? I made a mistake and would like to correct it? We are constantly learning and not being able to correct your mistakes sounds illogically punishing.
most quest items are quickly replaceable so it would not make sense to and prob a waste of time to devote time to this. I’m sorry but i don’t not know what quest reward you are talking about but if its a regular quest I’m sure you have replaced it by now and so what is the point.
At that time I wasn’t that hard core of a player and didn’t think of it. 6 months later I am and now in this situation.
The amount of negativity is a little astonishing considering “The Boon” is a more non-classic item that was ADDED to the game. Exchanging quest items was something you could do back when live GMs were around and I have multiple in-classic friends that have told me they have done this with live GMs. Now that we have an automated system we can’t do it anymore. This isn’t ruining the game at all because its already in the game.
Probably a lot of reasons why they don’t allow this. One is it’s probably something people could exploit. Another reason is there’s probably not enough requests for this exact type of thing for it to be worth their time to implement a process to do it.
Also, you should have chosen properly from the start. Every warrior and their mother and their grandma knows to choose the flask. Even without the healing it’s a BiS trinket for DPS. 150 attack power for 1 minute is very obviously BiS. This is your fault.
Everyone makes a valid point, but it SHOULD be the case that quest items can either be swappable or attain all of them. For instance, the quest that gives the reward for 2 crit to melee, 2 crit to spell, and one other is an amazing trinket for many classes. In cases such as mages or hunters, there’s no need to think about it (mages will not go melee and hunters will not go spell). HOWEVER, in the case of Shamans, Paly, Druids, etc, it’s unfair to limit these classes to ONE of those rewards. The goal of these versatile classes is to play which ever they choose. AND, it wouldn’t make any sense to have someone make multiple of each class. Who has the time to make 3 shamans (one for each class). IF blizzard wanted people to make multiple classes, they wouldn’t have implemented the dual spec. In other words, Blizzards seems to want to give people options. If that’s the case, then allow players to hold all quest items at their disposal. Dungeon, world drops, etc, are attainable as long as time is put in. However, these one and done quest rewards should not have to be chosen. This is ever more important when it consist of BIS items. Sometimes I want to go Enh shaman, other times I want to go ele/heal. Let me have both items to play around with for versatile characters.
As Kurrog pointed out, “quest rewards are a lasting decision” and so much in the vanilla era were and continue to be impactful. I get why someone would request the change and as an example given above there was a change in SoD to allow for trading of a quest reward for another. This is fine for seasonal but Era imo should keep the unaltered policy.
Ooo you almost had me with this.
But no still fine with not getting everything and/or accepting the consequence of my original choice.
Uh.
Okay it was 2019 when Classic was new and unspoiled. I was excited.
Yes.
Even in choosing the version of Warcraft you (the general you) play. Perhaps getting all the quest prizes is something that can and does happen with Blizzard’s blessings elsewhere. Not in Era and for me it’s okay to have it be different.
Still think it would have been okay to make your own thread about this, Ibubbleudie. But then I wouldn’t have gotten a chuckle out of seeing my earlier posts here (as Asma).
